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This is actually good for us I think, because ultimately I think the PL rules will end up aligning with UEFA, and then if that just becomes a fine because they want more cash, then so be it. What we don't need is expulsion from Champions League being a risk. At some stage it will get so heated that some team take the piss (Chelsea selling stuff to themselves, Man U getting COVID allowances) will just increase legal risk for the premier league, so the safe thing to do is just align with UEFA. 

 

 Obviously a lot of the rule changes came in to stop us stealing Champions League sweeties from the established big 6 - now that we have proven we can do that anyway without breaching the rules, I guess there might be less incentives on the Premier League to take legal risk to maintain the status quo, when that status quo has to a degree gone. The co-efficient system in the Champions League (and to a lesser degree the Club World Cup farce) allows the established teams to continue to get favourable income distribution, so the optimist in me thinks that the entire PSR Premier League rules will start to dilute. Just let UEFA/FIFA take the risk on that.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, gbandit said:

It might not affect PSR but that’s a big financial hit for the owners. Rich people don’t like suffering significant fines. Think it’ll have an impact even if it’s indirect

Haven't Chelsea lost something like £600m over the past 3 years or so?

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1 hour ago, Ben said:

Fucking yes UEFA, that will learn them, break the rules, pay us off, sorted.

 

Sentenced clubs that love spending money to spend more money (on fines), so that they can continue to spend more money. Its like the ironic punishment division in hell on the Simpson's.

 

 

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Just now, Keegans Export said:

Haven't Chelsea lost something like £600m over the past 3 years or so?

There’s a difference between losing money on speculative transfers that could bring you greater value and losing money for nothing at all. Rich people despise losing money for that reason but often don’t mind losing money when they view it as risk-based investments 

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“Sanctions hit the club hard under Roman Abramvoich” fuck off you pathetic gimp mask of a man. He had them in £1.5bn debt and had bankrolled the club as a money laundering exercise for two decades

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11 minutes ago, BlueStar said:

Was the intention of FFP to encourage clubs to flog off their women's teams?  I don't know what their exact aims were but pretty sure it wasn't what's been happening.

Unfortunately I think it’s working exactly as planned for the majority of owners.


The breakaway clubs have a huge advantage over any club showing ambition.

 

Middle of the league cuckold clubs don’t have to spend much just to stay in the league.

 

Football is fundamentally broken, but the majority of the 20 owners who set the rules don’t care.

 

 

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On 05/07/2025 at 15:54, Maggies said:

Unfortunately I think it’s working exactly as planned for the majority of owners.


The breakaway clubs have a huge advantage over any club showing ambition.

 

Middle of the league cuckold clubs don’t have to spend much just to stay in the league.

 

Football is fundamentally broken, but the majority of the 20 owners who set the rules don’t care.

 

 

It’s all of Europe, not just the PL clubs, who have adopted these rules.  Literally thousands of clubs have voted them in - which is why they’re going nowhere. 

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6 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

It’s all of Europe, not just the PL clubs, who have adopted these rules.  Literally thousands of clubs have voted them in - which is why they’re going nowhere. 

Does the whole of Europe have The associated party sponsorship rules that were brought in specifically to hamstring NUFC?

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The UEFA rules just stop new sides from challenging the elite don’t they? Has nothing to do with protecting the clubs from financial doom (especially when it comes with a big fine that hurts them financially), just about protecting the elite and their consistent access to the riches in the latter stages. 

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Yeah, they were never going to spell out what the point of the rules actually was so pretended it was to benefit the game somehow to pass off stagnation and ring fencing the clubs at the top from being usurped, as they had usurped others before, because we cant have that and basically making ambition dirty and being ran Ashley-style a virtue.

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