Financial Fair Play / Profit & Sustainability

[Stifler]

58 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Still is now, it’s not so much about what they can spend, it’s about preventing others from spending. 
 

no a chance a tight cunt like Jim would be keeping up with us and villas spending if the shackles were off. 

He wouldn’t use his money though. He’s a master of that with INEOS, and the whole ‘Government should build us a Wembley of the North’ spiel should have made anyone aware of that. He’ll borrow money to Man Utd, some of which will go on massive transfer fees, the rest will end up going to him either in ‘wages’ or via contracts with INEOS and anyone else he has links too.

People like him don’t spend their own money.

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by Stifler

[r0cafella]

11 minutes ago, Stifler said:

Him wouldn’t use his money though. He’s a master of that with INEOS, and the whole ‘Government should build us a Wembley of the North’ spiel should have made anyone aware of that. He’ll borrow money to Man Utd, some of which will go on massive transfer fees, the rest will end up going to him either in ‘wages’ or via contracts with INEOS and anyone else he has links too.

People like him don’t spend their own money.

Government aren’t going to fund his transfer spending no matter how much of a master he maybe. 

[Stifler]

2 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Government aren’t going to fund his transfer spending no matter how much of a master he maybe. 

I’m not saying they, but they will likely end up funding part of OT’s rebuild, either directly on the stadium, or others things around it that enables it to happen. He’ll borrow money on Man Utd’s books, and be spending above what PSR currently allows.

[r0cafella]

So at best he will be levering them up and fucking them to compete with people who have endless amounts of money. 
 

it doesnt end well for them without these silly restrictions 

[Decky]

We've had to sell a talented young player to a rival to balance the books, a player who is having a great start to his PL career and who plays in a position where we are desperate for a new player. 

 

That's the reality of these rules. They were brought in to prevent clubs going bankrupt but they're so stringent that they're forcing teams to sell their youngsters to their own detriment. All these rules do is harm clubs and hold them back. They need to be scraped and rewritten in line with reality in the modern game. The fact that fans are having to act like accountants every summer to have some idea of what is going on at their club is proves that the whole thing is ridiculous.

[r0cafella]

10 minutes ago, Decky said:

We've had to sell a talented young player to a rival to balance the books, a player who is having a great start to his PL career and who plays in a position where we are desperate for a new player. 

 

That's the reality of these rules. They were brought in to prevent clubs going bankrupt but they're so stringent that they're forcing teams to sell their youngsters to their own detriment. All these rules do is harm clubs and hold them back. They need to be scraped and rewritten in line with reality in the modern game. The fact that fans are having to act like accountants every summer to have some idea of what is going on at their club is proves that the whole thing is ridiculous.

Decoy my friend, these rules were not brought in to prevent clubs going bankrupt, that’s how they were sold but that isn’t the purpose and these rules certainly aren’t fit for it. 
 

 

[Decky]

Just now, r0cafella said:

Decoy my friend, these rules were not brought in to prevent clubs going bankrupt, that’s how they were sold but that isn’t the purpose and these rules certainly aren’t fit for it. 
 

 

 

Oh I know that, but that's what they're telling us. With Man Utd, Chelsea and City maybe leaning towards change, perhaps Arsenal as well, maybe it's time to call a vote on removing or drastically changing these rules?

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Decky said:

 

Oh I know that, but that's what they're telling us. With Man Utd, Chelsea and City maybe leaning towards change, perhaps Arsenal as well, maybe it's time to call a vote on removing or drastically changing these rules?

I hate to be that guy, truly but none of these clubs want to change the rules in a manner which makes things easier for us or clubs like us. Never the less it looks likely we will follow Uefa and adopt squad cost we don’t have the details yet though. 
 

by my rough estimation this will be even more difficult for us as long as the related party rules remain. 

[Stifler]

16 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

So at best he will be levering them up and fucking them to compete with people who have endless amounts of money. 
 

it doesnt end well for them without these silly restrictions 

But they have the ability to use the leverage because they are allowed to sign inflated sponsorships with anyone they like. We by comparison have to sell players at reduced rates (ASM), and beg them to let us have a new sponsorship.

[FloydianMag]

45 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Government aren’t going to fund his transfer spending no matter how much of a master he maybe. 

Aye, not a good look for the government, take pensioners winter fuel payments then fund Brexit Jim’s Wembley of the North.

[Hudson]

6 minutes ago, FloydianMag said:

Aye, not a good look for the government, take pensioners winter fuel payments then fund Brexit Jim’s Wembley of the North.

Don't worry it's going to be local council money used.