Ben Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, duo said: It's ridiculous- law to themselves Aren't they re writing the rules in August anyway ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 15 minutes ago, Ben said: Aren't they re writing the rules in August anyway ? Think so. Man U aren't happy as current rules are impacting them now. Timing hey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 16 hours ago, Shearergol said: I’m a massive hypocrite but I want us to spend billions and win everything, mainly because it’s been shit being a Newcastle fan for fucking ages. Now it’s shit because we’re so fucking close and there’s a massive brick wall up in front of the opposition goal. It's like double jeopardy with the same rival clubs benefitting from both states. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) Just for people that are saying smash FFP to the tune of £200m and take the 10 point deduction, it doesn’t work like that, the formula is calculated as 6 pts for breaching the threshold and then 1 pt additionally for every 5m the threshold is breached, so if we smashed it by £200m the points deduction would be 46 points, and if we broke it by that amount, it’s likely that we would break FFP the next 2 years (3 year rolling cycle) so would end up with 20-30 points deductions for the following 2 years Edited January 16 by nufcnick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, nufcnick said: Just for people that are saying smash FFP to the tune of £200m and take the 10 point deduction, it doesn’t work like that, the formula is calculated as 6 pts for breaching the threshold and then 1 pt additionally for every 5m the threshold is breached, so if we smashed it by £200m the points deduction would be 46 points, and if we broke it by that amount, it’s likely that we would break FFP the next 2 years (3 year rolling cycle) so would end up with 20-30 points deductions for the following 2 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 59 minutes ago, nufcnick said: Just for people that are saying smash FFP to the tune of £200m and take the 10 point deduction, it doesn’t work like that, the formula is calculated as 6 pts for breaching the threshold and then 1 pt additionally for every 5m the threshold is breached, so if we smashed it by £200m the points deduction would be 46 points, and if we broke it by that amount, it’s likely that we would break FFP the next 2 years (3 year rolling cycle) so would end up with 20-30 points deductions for the following 2 years After 3 years we will be smashing it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, Erikse said: After 3 years we will be smashing it though. Might as well do it! It's gonna take that long anyway. Sad truth is I'm only half joking! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, LFEE said: ? I never watch SSN anymore. When did they decide to try and look like they're just chilling on a podcast or something? Looks utter shite. That's my focus because I don't have the energy to get annoyed at the inevitable exoneration of Man City. Edited January 16 by wormy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, wormy said: I never watch SSN anymore. When did they decide to try and look like they're just chilling on a podcast or something? Looks utter shite. That's my focus because I don't have the energy to get annoyed at the inevitable exoneration of Man City. But but.......... Man City's is complicated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TBG Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) Edited January 16 by TBG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Dicky Masters not covering himself in glory today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidnolan13 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 46 minutes ago, 54 said: Outside of st james park it was bordering on amazement lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey47 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Don’t know if this has been asked here already but does anyone know if Everton will get another deduction this season or will it be for next? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 10 minutes ago, Joey47 said: Don’t know if this has been asked here already but does anyone know if Everton will get another deduction this season or will it be for next? If their appeal over the current 10-point deduction is unsuccessful and the latest charge is upheld then they'll get any additional punishment this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 £75,000 for Jonjo, £100k for Wood. Why couldn’t we have gotten rid of a couple of others to them too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 5 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: If their appeal over the current 10-point deduction is unsuccessful and the latest charge is upheld then they'll get any additional punishment this season. I heard on 5 Live that the appeal and the new punishment all have to be sorted by the end of the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) Seems like it was lose-lose for Forest getting promoted like. Either spend huge to stay up then take the deduction down the line probably leading to relegation, or do a Norwich and go down meekly. FFP can piss off. Edited January 16 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Missed him calling Everton and Forest "small clubs" mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 12 minutes ago, Isaksbigrightfoot said: This explains why we are not spending and probably won’t unless we sell. It is highly likely we sell Bruno you know. The income would hit FFP instantly swinging it 100m and allow us to buy two or three players. Would you want that all? Looking at our FFP, are we not completely fucked? This doesnt take into account this years figures, but we would need to post 13m in profit in this years accounts to be sustainable? as we have 118m in losses last 2 years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 8 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Missed him calling Everton and Forest "small clubs" mind Everton fans seem to be more upset about being called a ‘small’ club, rather than another potential points deduction ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 41 minutes ago, davidnolan13 said: Outside of st james park it was bordering on amazement lol Some were against at least one of those. Forest helped us out immensely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaksbigrightfoot Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 8 minutes ago, TRC said: Looking at our FFP, are we not completely fucked? This doesnt take into account this years figures, but we would need to post 13m in profit in this years accounts to be sustainable? as we have 118m in losses last 2 years? It’s one of the reasons why I think we may sell Bruno. And this window aswell. He is also in Paris which is a little bit of a concern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, Isaksbigrightfoot said: It’s one of the reasons why I think we may sell Bruno. And this window aswell. He is also in Paris which is a little bit of a concern. I fucked up the quote, but I just moved it to this thread. I dont get how we have had profit on player sales, but its operating costs that have fucked us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 15 minutes ago, TRC said: Looking at our FFP, are we not completely fucked? This doesnt take into account this years figures, but we would need to post 13m in profit in this years accounts to be sustainable? as we have 118m in losses last 2 years? Selling Maxi and Wood ring any bells? Also the £73M loss announced this year is not all attributable to ffp, with many things deductible from it for things like the academy, training ground and investment in the Women's team not counting towards the PL's PSR calculations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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