bobbydazzla Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 17 minutes ago, SteV said: It could possibly help, but as others have said, who you place next to them has more of an impact. We’re never going to be allowed to have them pitchside unless the current safety regulations change, so bit of a moot point anyway. There's only us and the Makems who break the PL rule about the away end having to be pitchside. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cg7vn57x7neo#:~:text=But the club moved the,ground via a car park. I don't see how it's that difficult to keep the away fans segregated on the way into the ground, just do what they do now but for a couple of other turnstiles rather than L7. I was flicking through the channels last night and the 5-0 Man Utd match was on, so I watched the 2nd half. The camera focused in on the back and forth between the pitch side MUFC fans and our lot and it was class. Man Utd were giving it back even though they were getting drubbed. That back & forth just doesn't happen with the current layout and really needs to change so we have our most vocal fans near the away end. And we all know the L7 Curva Nord was class at creating the back & forth with the away end, so it's been a proven success in the past. Edited January 23 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Si67 said: At PSV had 2 behind me who spent nearly all match talking about anything but football and a bloke nearby who belted out Suburbia by the Pet Shop Boys at half time but didn’t join in any of the singing during the game - weird. Belter of a song, TBF. Can’t blame him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpinho Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I regularly take my 8 year old in the family section and often sit right next to the away fans. It’s ridiculous really (although do enjoy him goading away fans and passing comment that “those losers at Chelsea only have one song”). Shifting that section out, it seems mostly members anyway, and making it a dedicated singing area is definitely one of the most realistic and easiest options currently available. I’d love more safe standing etc, but as a short term fix the singing section seems such an obvious one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 If I had control of the club I'd ban every cunt who booed at full time for life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Sounded abysmal on the telly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Sounded good at the beginning. Then got worse as the game went on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Sounded decent on the telly up until they scored. Then sounded shite thereafter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Barring a about half a dozen (at the most) rows at the back, the main Gallowgate is shite. Canny depressing when you can’t get up for a game like this. Especially as the referee was at times doing his best to light the touchpaper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 ChatGPT has been to our home games… When negativity snowballs in a crowd, it becomes self-reinforcing. A few key things happen: The mood locks in Once booing or sarcasm gets going, people stop evaluating moments on their own. Every mistake confirms the story: “See? They’re terrible.” Even neutral moments get read negatively. Social pressure flips In that kind of crowd, being positive feels awkward or even wrong. Cheering can sound naïve, sarcastic, or out of touch. People don’t want to be that person, so they stay quiet—or join the negativity. Emotions outrun reality The crowd isn’t reacting to what’s happening anymore, but to how it feels. A bad ref call from five minutes ago is still echoing emotionally, so everything after it gets punished. Players feel it immediately Athletes are insanely sensitive to crowd energy. Negativity tightens them up, makes mistakes more likely, and—cruel irony—creates the very failures the crowd is angry about. It feeds on identity The crowd starts bonding over shared disappointment. Complaining becomes the social glue. At that point, negativity isn’t just easy—it’s rewarded. In those moments, positivity doesn’t just take effort—it takes confidence. Usually it only breaks through if: Something undeniable happens (a fight-back moment) A leader section intentionally flips the chant Time or distance cools things off Otherwise, the crowd will ride the negativity all the way to the final whistle and leave feeling weirdly justified and unsatisfied at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Almost like that's been the way almost everywhere most all the time for almost all of our lives Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Jonas said: Almost like that's been the way almost everywhere most all the time for almost all of our lives I can’t really say as I’ve not been in many other clubs home crowds. But I can say I’m fucking sick to the back teeth of being in our ground and having angry loud blokes around me do nowt but piss & moan about our own players all game. Not only are they ultra-negative they also can’t keep their fucking cakeholes shut and have to provide a high volume running commentary about everything they hate about NUFC players. The loudmouth toxic cunts have infiltrated every part of the ground and it’s doing my head in. Edited January 25 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 It’s generally pretty supportive up at the back of the Gallowagte, like. Not that many dickheads about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Rich said: It’s generally pretty supportive up at the back of the Gallowagte, like. Not that many dickheads about. It’s fucking grim in most other parts of the ground. You’ll either get a wall of silence, or some cunt gobbing off all game, usually about how shite all our players are. Today it was non-stop high volume negativity from kick off until Villa scored their 2nd and the cunt walked out. It didn’t go unnoticed that he was able to muster plenty of positivity in the vigorous pre-match handshakes & greetings though. Edited January 25 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 People are just cunts man, I dunno how you do it week-in, week-out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just seen something on X saying it was the worst atmosphere since Forest on Boxing Day 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: If I had control of the club I'd ban every cunt who booed at full time for life. My feeling in the ground was that it was intended for the ref and people caught themselves and stopped booing when they realised it could be interpreted as towards the players. There was a short boo round then general malaise noises followed by proper booing when the ref and linesmen walked off the pitch. I didn’t boo at the end of the game but I did boo Jared when he left the pitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 9 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: It’s fucking grim in most other parts of the ground. You’ll either get a wall of silence, or some cunt gobbing off all game, usually about how shite all our players are. Today it was non-stop high volume negativity from kick off until Villa scored their 2nd and the cunt walked out. It didn’t go unnoticed that he was able to muster plenty of positivity in the vigorous pre-match handshakes & greetings though. Don't worry, he'll be back in 2 weeks time to do it all again against Brentford. Some people just thrive on negativity. They turn up every fortnight and if we aren't winning after 20 minutes, everyone is going to know about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, gbandit said: My feeling in the ground was that it was intended for the ref and people caught themselves and stopped booing when they realised it could be interpreted as towards the players. There was a short boo round then general malaise noises followed by proper booing when the ref and linesmen walked off the pitch. I didn’t boo at the end of the game but I did boo Jared when he left the pitch I'd ban you for life. Nah, that's actually a relief to hear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 6 minutes ago, Rich said: People are just cunts man, I dunno how you do it week-in, week-out. Do what? Go to games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I thought the half time booing was def the ref but i did interpret the full time booing as being the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 12 minutes ago, Rich said: People are just cunts man, I dunno how you do it week-in, week-out. With the costs involved in going tow atch NUFC these days, costs that have put me off I might add, I just find it strange that people pay out all that cash to do something that appears to make them so bloody miserable. The glum faces, the moaning and twisting on, the leaving your seats for long periods for a pint/watch it on the concourse/early dart back to the pub, I just don't get. And that applies when we're winning as well as losing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 16 minutes ago, Hovagod said: Do what? Go to games? You’re so fucking aggro these days, like I meant that he goes in for every ballot, loses, scrats about getting whatever he can in the member sale, has to sit in a load of shite seats, then listen to wastes of oxygen like the bloke he’s mentioned today for 2 hours bleat on negatively instead of supporting the team. I couldn’t be arsed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 10 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said: I thought the half time booing was def the ref but i did interpret the full time booing as being the team. Was definitely booing the team imo. Not something I personally do but I definitely interpreted it as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just now, Chicken Dancer said: Was definitely booing the team imo. Not something I personally do but I definitely interpreted it as that. It 100% was. Nothing sustained, but it was aimed at the gaffer/team rather than anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, Rich said: You’re so fucking aggro these days, like I meant that he goes in for every ballot, loses, scrats about getting whatever he can in the member sale, has to sit in a load of shite seats, then listen to wastes of oxygen like the bloke he’s mentioned today for 2 hours bleat on negatively instead of supporting the team. I couldn’t be arsed. Sorry, mate- misunderstood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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