Match Atmosphere

[Wallsendmag]

17 minutes ago, Bellis80 said:

Fair enough. Know you go every week. Last season was good because we were flying but were already starting to see people who it had seemed like had never been to a game.

 

Even when we were shite the atmosphere was nearly always good away from home. I've been in umpteen away ends over the years where we've been 4 or 5 goals down and still outsung the home fans comfortably.

 

There was talk a while back that around 1 in 3 of our regular away travellers went on someone else's ticket, usually sourced through supporters buses. Certainly my experience of aways I would say that's a fairly accurate figure., even maybe a bit Conservative. If that's the case that's 1,000 fans out of the typical 3,000 away end who can no longer go. These were generally lads in their late teens, 20s and 30s. The demographic that typically make the most noise.

 

They've been replaced in the away ends by season ticket holders, mostly whom weren't all that arsed about away games previously, but the main problem is that these season ticket holders who typically sit there in silence at home games are now going away and going the same in away ends.

 

[jack j]

1 hour ago, Wandy said:

Yeah, wouldn't be surprised if Saturday's effort is pitiful, considering the numbers going.

Hopefully it's like man utd away and not like Wembley. People getting telt to sit down and that.

[OCOCOL]

On 29/12/2023 at 17:30, Wallsendmag said:

 

They don't have a choice. It isn't their seat.

the bond scheme proved that in a court of law. 

[Wallsendmag]

1 hour ago, OCOCOL said:

the bond scheme proved that in a court of law. 

 

Aye that was very harsh but ultimately the seat remains the property of the club.

[Whitley mag]

Fucking YouTubers and season ticket holders who sat at Wembley like mutes are the main reason the away has turned to shit, so what if we we’re under the cosh at Liverpool when’s that ever been an excuse not to sing away from home on an 8pm kick off.

 

 

[Hovagod]

5 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Fucking YouTubers and season ticket holders who sat at Wembley like mutes are the main reason the away has turned to shit, so what if we we’re under the cosh at Liverpool when’s that ever been an excuse not to sing away from home on an 8pm kick off.

 

 

Is there another club in the country that has a problem with season ticket holders in the same way our fanbase does? You know, the people that were going to every game before we were taken over by the Saudi state? Those fickle cunts.

[NUFCDoog]

Don't think anyone's calling them fickle, like you say they've gone for years and continue to do so.

 

There's just a large proportion of them that make no bloody noise to get behind the team at matches.

[Whitley mag]

2 minutes ago, Hovagod said:

Is there another club in the country that has a problem with season ticket holders in the same way our fanbase does? You know, the people that were going to every game before we were taken over by the Saudi state? Those fickle cunts.

The ones who sat on their arse while Ashley took the piss as well, just happy for their day out regardless of the state of club.

 

Personally think it shone through at Wembley and now in the away support since points dropped, find it strange loyal season ticket holders only have 5 and less points but are now clamouring for away days.

[Nucasol]

3 minutes ago, Hovagod said:

Is there another club in the country that has a problem with season ticket holders in the same way our fanbase does? You know, the people that were going to every game before we were taken over by the Saudi state? Those fickle cunts.

Not fickle, just shepherded into the ground with their tartan blankets to mither and groan through 100+ minutes.

[Sima]

24 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

The ones who sat on their arse while Ashley took the piss as well, just happy for their day out regardless of the state of club.

 

Personally think it shone through at Wembley and now in the away support since points dropped, find it strange loyal season ticket holders only have 5 and less points but are now clamouring for away days.

The ones who criticise those that tried to form any kind of protest.

 

The ones who called fellow fans scum when they walked in on the 11th minute against West Ham.

 

 

Edited January 3 by Sima

[SteV]

14 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

The ones who sat on their arse while Ashley took the piss as well, just happy for their day out regardless of the state of club.

 

Personally think it shone through at Wembley and now in the away support since points dropped, find it strange loyal season ticket holders only have 5 and less points but are now clamouring for away days.

Tbh, ask fans of other clubs, and they generally have very similar experiences of Wembley, especially if you get beat.

 

Mackems had a literally identical game experience to us, until they finally won the pizza cup, then that one altered their view slightly. Some (not that many obviously) haven’t bothered going recently given how many times they’ve been there, and knowing what it’s like.

 

That’s just how it is at Wembley. Obviously the vast majority of us would go again, but don’t expect it to be any different unless we win.

[Whitley mag]

7 minutes ago, SteV said:

Tbh, ask fans of other clubs, and they generally have very similar experiences of Wembley, especially if you get beat.

 

Mackems had a literally identical game experience to us, until they finally won the pizza cup, then that one altered their view slightly. Some (not that many obviously) haven’t bothered going recently given how many times they’ve been there, and knowing what it’s like.

 

That’s just how it is at Wembley. Obviously the vast majority of us would go again, but don’t expect it to be any different unless we win.

I accept Wembley’s not conducive to a great atmosphere, but the Mancs managed to make a decent racket compared to us on the day. The majority of their end stood and seemed a lot more passionate than our lot throughout.

 

 

Edited January 3 by Whitley mag

[500bhp]

It's not just us. The crowd at the Ally Pally are quite quiet tonight so far! 

[SteV]

20 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

I accept Wembley’s not conducive to a great atmosphere, but the Mancs managed to make a decent racket compared to us on the day. The majority of their end stood and seemed a lot more passionate than our lot throughout.

 

 

 

When they were winning…

 

For all the talk of different contributing factors affecting the atmosphere, the overriding factor is always what happens on the pitch.

 

And I say that with the caveat of in relation to what’s expected to happen on the pitch. People will (justifiably) say ‘I’ve been in great away ends when we were shit’. Yes, but those away ends weren’t at places like Wigan, where, even though we weren’t great ourselves, we went thinking we shouldn’t be getting dicked off the likes of these, but then we’d be terrible, get dicked and the atmosphere would be shite.

 

Expectations have, rightfully, gone up after last season, and us being nowhere near meeting them is also having a big effect on atmospheres.

[Wallsendmag]

We were flat before the match. In the pubs, walking to the ground and In the concourse beforehand. I remember saying to my nephew the fans weren't up for it. Looked around and most people were in their 50s and 60s. It was like going to a home match in the Leazes End.

 

Hated every minute of it.

[Lush Vlad]

Just now, Wallsendmag said:

We were flat before the match. In the pubs, walking to the ground and In the concourse beforehand. I remember saying to my nephew the fans weren't up for it. Looked around and most people were in their 50s and 60s. It was like going to a home match in the Leazes End.

 

Hated every minute of it.

Then annoyingly. We showed a bit of character at the end and defiance. Then made some noise in the pubs after. When plenty of the Man U fans had fucked off home. 
 

Too little too late, sadly. 

[SteV]

Just now, Wallsendmag said:

We were flat before the match. In the pubs, walking to the ground and In the concourse beforehand. I remember saying to my nephew the fans weren't up for it. Looked around and most people were in their 50s and 60s. It was like going to a home match in the Leazes End.

 

Hated every minute of it.

Was barely any folk of that age around me.

Although I was in the standing section so perhaps wouldn’t have expected it.

[Wallsendmag]

4 minutes ago, SteV said:

Was barely any folk of that age around me.

Although I was in the standing section so perhaps wouldn’t have expected it.

 

We were in the lower tier right behind the goal, where I assumed mist the atmosphere would be, which is why I picked there as we were in phase one so had the pick of seats. The whole day just felt off. Nobody singing in the pubs beforehand, Man Utd fans outsinging us down Wembley way (mainly with their Shearer song), got into the ground and at tbe age of 45 I felt like a young man! Knew it was going to be shite before we got to out seats.

 

My abiding memory of being at the match was some wifey going absolutely ape shit with everyone at half time for standing in complete silence for the 1st half. Needless to say it got no better at half time.

 

Just a miserable day all round.

[Whitley mag]

16 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

We were in the lower tier right behind the goal, where I assumed mist the atmosphere would be, which is why I picked there as we were in phase one so had the pick of seats. The whole day just felt off. Nobody singing in the pubs beforehand, Man Utd fans outsinging us down Wembley way (mainly with their Shearer song), got into the ground and at tbe age of 45 I felt like a young man! Knew it was going to be shite before we got to out seats.

 

My abiding memory of being at the match was some wifey going absolutely ape shit with everyone at half time for standing in complete silence for the 1st half. Needless to say it got no better at half time.

 

Just a miserable day all round.

I concur it was fucking embarrassing and as for the show of defiance at the end, if waving your flags while not singing is defiance then somethings gone horribly wrong with our support.

 

In every one of the trips to Wembley under Keegan, Dalglish and Robson the pubs, tubes and Wembley Way were bouncing, the mancs took the fucking piss on Wembley Way when they showed up and our lot as you have said we’re flat to put it politely.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 3 by Whitley mag

[jack j]

31 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

We were flat before the match. In the pubs, walking to the ground and In the concourse beforehand. I remember saying to my nephew the fans weren't up for it. Looked around and most people were in their 50s and 60s. It was like going to a home match in the Leazes End.

 

Hated every minute of it.

I remember walking down Wembley way and loads of them giving it cheer up alan shearer. Barely owt coming back from wor fans. Too busy taking selfies.

 

Edit just realised you said that in ur other post

They were rowdy as fuck

 

 

Edited January 3 by jack j

[bobbydazzla]

Might have helped if thousands hadn’t blown their beans in Trafalgar Square the day before. Maybe better to celebrate in the streets after we win summat, not 24 hrs before the game   

 

And I was at back of standing section behind the goal, was noisy enough until a massive racist cunt starting hurling abuse at anyone who wasn’t white and it caused bother as we tried to shut him up 

 

 

Edited January 3 by bobbydazzla

[Coffee_Johnny]

1 hour ago, jack j said:

I remember walking down Wembley way and loads of them giving it cheer up alan shearer. Barely owt coming back from wor fans. Too busy taking selfies.

 

Edit just realised you said that in ur other post

They were rowdy as fuck

 

 

 

It was quieter in the way back down Wembley way! Apart from me. I sang all six verses of Blaydon Races to cheer-up the troops (& say fuck you to the stray early-dart Man Utd fans). Did it again on a packed carriage; which was a much cheerier mass participation event! 

[TheBrownBottle]

5 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

It was quieter in the way back down Wembley way! Apart from me. I sang all six verses of Blaydon Races to cheer-up the troops (& say fuck you to the stray early-dart Man Utd fans). Did it again on a packed carriage; which was a much cheerier mass participation event! 

I reckon you only sang all those verses because you’re named in them …  

[TheBrownBottle]

1 hour ago, Whitley mag said:

I concur it was fucking embarrassing and as for the show of defiance at the end, if waving your flags while not singing is defiance then somethings gone horribly wrong with our support.

 

In every one of the trips to Wembley under Keegan, Dalglish and Robson the pubs, tubes and Wembley Way were bouncing, the mancs took the fucking piss on Wembley Way when they showed up and our lot as you have said we’re flat to put it politely.

 

 

 

 

 

Singing ‘attack, attack, attack attack attack’ at Dalglish’s side in ‘98 sticks in the memory as much as owt else.  There was an undercurrent of annoyance at the limp-wristed approach to a cup final.  Then defiance when about twenty thousand of us stayed back chanting Newcastle songs as Arsenal celebrated.  Waving a flag would not have cut it. 

[jack j]

These the new toon ultras....?

But with a drum.

 

 

 

Edited January 4 by jack j