Match Atmosphere

[jack j]

If we get to another cup final I'd seriously be giving it a 2nd thought about going

Which is fucking mental considering all I've ever wanted is to see us lift a cup.

The whole Wembley thing last year was so plastic. Knocked me sick. Even if we'd won I know it wouldn't have been the be all and end all

[OCOCOL]

1 minute ago, jack j said:

If we get to another cup final I'd seriously be giving it a 2nd thought about going

Which is fucking mental considering all I've ever wanted is to see us lift a cup.

The whole Wembley thing last year was so plastic. Knocked me sick. Even if we'd won I know it wouldn't have been the be all and end all

 

Aye the lads I met after who watched in bars around KGX had a better time that we did at Wembley.

[Fezzle]

Just seen a photo on FB of that bloke with the shit NUFC belly tattoo(not Beefy) Wasnt it on here that hes a wrongun?

[bobbydazzla]

For Euro trips and cup finals / semi’s we’re stuck in a rut.

 

Travel in huge numbers, get mortal for days and “takeover” a city pre-match. Game is often underwhelming and a sideshow to days on the drink.

 

Result rarely goes our way, atmosphere is poor and we go back home disappointed.

 

Reminds me of how Rangers and Celtic go on. 

 

Hopefully as we get better on the pitch the drinking will become the sideshow to being there for the match and successful result.
 

And we can then go akka on the ale celebrating post-match rather than pre-match 

 

 

Edited November 8, 2023 by bobbydazzla

[Vedder]

36 minutes ago, OCOCOL said:

 

Aye the lads I met after who watched in bars around KGX had a better time that we did at Wembley.

After the league cup final, I really wished I'd travelled to London, even without a ticket. Being in Newcastle was OK, just didn't have the build up/atmosphere I was expecting. It kind of felt like a regular match day watching in a pub.

[NUFC91]

2 hours ago, brummie said:

Reading about fans who've hardly been to matches getting tickets for this match and the club organising it badly, the usual faces not being there, full of daytrippers etc

 

How is this happening?

 

How is the ticket allocation handled for your games in Europe? Ours is a fucking impossibility if you haven't been at almost every match since the year dot.

 

Although I guess you've been playing in grounds with larger allocations.

 

Here's ours by comparison, this was for Legia Warsaw:

 

 

 

Club are taking large percentage now for corporate ticket holders. A lot ending up on numerous ticketing sites whilst some fans still struggling to even get tickets

[NUFC91]

Nice to see corporate ballot for PSG done before ST holders if you believe what you read

[Wilson]

2 hours ago, ponsaelius said:

I'm probably (definitely) a miserable twat but I personally don't understand going to an away game unless you're actually going to the match.

 

I had a great time in Brugge during the day but certainly didn't have any FOMO for those that just stayed in the square. I was there to see the game

 

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

 

Same for me now, this just popped up on my memories....

 

12 year ago man

 

I feel old. 

 

 

[Shadow Puppets]

1 hour ago, NUFC91 said:

 

Club are taking large percentage now for corporate ticket holders. A lot ending up on numerous ticketing sites whilst some fans still struggling to even get tickets

No that's not true at all. 

 

A maximum of 7% of the away allocation are held back for corporate clients AND players friends/families. A few years ago it used to be maximum 5%. So only a small increase.

That's not the reason for the away issues at all.

[SteV]

18 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

No that's not true at all. 

 

A maximum of 7% of the away allocation are held back for corporate clients AND players friends/families. A few years ago it used to be maximum 5%. So only a small increase.

That's not the reason for the away issues at all.

Don’t doubt you’re right, but it would surely help all involved if they were open and transparent with those numbers, then people wouldn’t be saying/believing otherwise.

[Shadow Puppets]

20 minutes ago, SteV said:

Don’t doubt you’re right, but it would surely help all involved if they were open and transparent with those numbers, then people wouldn’t be saying/believing otherwise.

They are very open about it if you just ask any of the corporate team. I was speaking to my corporate team contact at the match last night who said for the PSG game they've only been allocated 100 away end tickets. 

[Shadow Puppets]

23 minutes ago, SteV said:

Don’t doubt you’re right, but it would surely help all involved if they were open and transparent with those numbers, then people wouldn’t be saying/believing otherwise.

People will always say / believe whatever they want if they perceive some kind of injustice somewhere (see the vitriol towards YouTubers etc).

The reality is that last night's atmosphere had nothing to do with who had the tickets and everything to do with British drinking culture... I'll never fucking understand why you'd spend hundreds of pounds to follow NUFC in Europe, only to be too pissed to make a noise / stand up.

[ponsaelius]

1 hour ago, Wilson said:

 

Same for me now, this just popped up on my memories....

 

12 year ago man

 

I feel old. 

 

 

 

Spied myself in that bottom shot!

[NUFC91]

50 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

No that's not true at all. 

 

A maximum of 7% of the away allocation are held back for corporate clients AND players friends/families. A few years ago it used to be maximum 5%. So only a small increase.

That's not the reason for the away issues at all.

 

Find it hard to believe unless people are selling tickets on. I seen 4 lads in away end last night who i know don't have season tickets or enough loyalty points. There was couple on our flight saying it was their 3rd away game. Don't get me wrong it's not 100% issue but it is a contributing factor.

 

But maybe it is ST holders selling on

[PCW1983]

6 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

People will always say / believe whatever they want if they perceive some kind of injustice somewhere (see the vitriol towards YouTubers etc).

The reality is that last night's atmosphere had nothing to do with who had the tickets and everything to do with British drinking culture... I'll never fucking understand why you'd spend hundreds of pounds to follow NUFC in Europe, only to be too pissed to make a noise / stand up.

Agree, but I’d say drink and drugs. 
 

It’s even reflected in some of the songs I heard…summit about Nick Pope sniffs coke and some other butchered song about 10 bags. 
 

The only saving grace for me is that I didn’t hear anything about WW2 or anything stupid like that (which I expected to tbh). 

[OCOCOL]

Mebbes the toot in Germany is shitter than here... or their lager is stronger - knocking a few people out of kilter 

[Shadow Puppets]

1 minute ago, NUFC91 said:

 

Find it hard to believe unless people are selling tickets on. I seen 4 lads in away end last night who i know don't have season tickets or enough loyalty points. There was couple on our flight saying it was their 3rd away game. Don't get me wrong it's not 100% issue but it is a contributing factor.

 

But maybe it is ST holders selling on

 

Well unless everyone who I see weekly in the corporate team are point blank lying to me, the 7% figure is correct.

 

I think it's much much more likely to be season ticket holders selling them on / giving them to mates. Two of my friends went on someone else's ticket yesterday.

[PCW1983]

Just now, Shadow Puppets said:

 

Well unless everyone who I see weekly in the corporate team are point blank lying to me, the 7% figure is correct.

 

I think it's much much more likely to be season ticket holders selling them on / giving them to mates. Two of my friends went on someone else's ticket yesterday.

As soon as it was confirmed there’d not be any ID checks, it was open season for passing tickets on. 

[Shadow Puppets]

1 minute ago, PCW1983 said:

Agree, but I’d say drink and drugs. 
 

It’s even reflected in some of the songs I heard…summit about Nick Pope sniffs coke and some other butchered song about 10 bags. 
 

The only saving grace for me is that I didn’t hear anything about WW2 or anything stupid like that (which I expected to tbh). 

Oh I did ?

Some pissed up dickhead chav on the tube shouting at some Dortmund fans that "England won the war" and that we "saved the world from having to speak your horrible language".

[PCW1983]

3 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Oh I did ?

Some pissed up dickhead chav on the tube shouting at some Dortmund fans that "England won the war" and that we "saved the world from having to speak your horrible language".

Not surprised tbh. 
 

Mind, the tube was mental….its one of the few times in my life where I felt unsafe because of how crushed it was, kids crying, people shouting not to push…it was horrid. 

[TBG]

9 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Oh I did ?

Some pissed up dickhead chav on the tube shouting at some Dortmund fans that "England won the war" and that we "saved the world from having to speak your horrible language".

 

@Disco

[OCOCOL]

21 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Oh I did ?

Some pissed up dickhead chav on the tube shouting at some Dortmund fans that "England won the war" and that we "saved the world from having to speak your horrible language".

 

It's embarrassing but that's happened anytime we've played in Germany tbf and even Switzerland (Basel - I remember a lot of No Surrender chants). You will always get dickheads I think there are just more forums where people can raise it / complain about it. The dickheads are often emboldened and their xenophobia heightened by travel so people who haven't been away in Europe may have not seen the uglier right wing side of our fanbase before. Having said that I heard younguns chanting an unrepeatable song about Peter Beardsley and the alleged reason for his dismissal at Wolves - I challenged them to be told it wasn't racist and just a "frisk". I shook my head and walked off - you can't reason with coke fuelled idiots in my experience.

[LFEE]

5 hours ago, Wandy said:

 

It's happening mainly because the ticketing has been handled shambolically this season. A system has been created whereby people who were nowhere to be seen two years ago are now getting tickets ahead of those who have been going for years through all of the hard times.

 

I have some sympathy for the hierarchy at the moment. The club has become an absolute monster again, like the 90s on speed, and it must be bewildering for them trying to keep up with the progress. But this cannot continue, & by the start of next season this has to be sorted. A proper loyalty system need to be in place for away matches so that dedicated away fans get priority over johnny-come-latelys who go for a day on the piss. And the ballot for home games needs binning off, with the queue brought back together with freedom of seat selection. 

This point makes no sense at all. Dortmund sold out at 41 points using a system you are requesting ?

 

4 hours ago, Wandy said:

Surely you misheard that?  It’s “Glazers staying 10 more years”….

 

Lyrics have changed to reflect last Wednesday night.

Kraft & Dummet at the back

Tino on the overlap 

Ritchie staying for 10 more years

Geordie Boys are on the beers…
 

 

[Hovagod]

Is one of the issues not that because we don’t expect to just get twatted now in huge games, nerves and people, you know, watching the match are distracting a bit from the singing?

[OCOCOL]

Just now, Hovagod said:

Is one of the issues not that because we don’t expect to just get twatted now in huge games, nerves and people, you know, watching the match are distracting a bit from the singing?

I think there’s definitely an element of that. I was at the second leg of Barcelona v Liverpool CL semi at anfiekd when Liverpool came back from 3-0 down in the Nou Camp to win 4-0 and go through. What struck me was how calm the crowd were when 1 goal from Barca would have sent them through on away goals . I put it down to being used to success - if that had been us at SJP the crowd wound have been whistling before the 90 mins were up and collectively shitting our pants.