Champions League 2023/2024: Group F (Newcastle, Milan, Dortmund, PSG)

[LiquidAK]

Feel a bit better knowing that Dortmund are at home for their game against PSG. Can't see them taking the foot off the gas too much in front of their home crowd.

[andycap]

1 minute ago, LiquidAK said:

Feel a bit better knowing that Dortmund are at home for their game against PSG. Can't see them taking the foot off the gas too much in front of their home crowd.

Did Dortmund not lose the title on home soil last year? ? 

[andycap]

Plus Dortmund have only been beaten once so far in the groups against PSG. 

[LiquidAK]

6 minutes ago, andycap said:

Did Dortmund not lose the title on home soil last year? ? 

There's a big difference between bottling it and not trying.

[Shak]

Dortmund will surely be highly motivated to top the group.

 

Their likely opponents if they top the group are...

 

Copenhagen/Galatasary/Man U

PSV/Lens

Napoli

Lazio

Porto

 

While if they finish second...

 

Arsenal

Real Madrid

Atletico Madrid

Man City

Barcelona

 

Not a definitive list as little is settled but it would be a surprise of any of the teams in the second list don't win their groups.

 

(They could also play Inter/Sociedad, hard to call how that group will go)

 

But yeah, they'll be up for it against PSG IMO.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, LiquidAK said:

Feel a bit better knowing that Dortmund are at home for their game against PSG. Can't see them taking the foot off the gas too much in front of their home crowd.

 

Hopefully they think they've got our and Milan's number, so would prefer us going through than PSG.

 

 

Edited November 29, 2023 by Optimistic Nut

[Displayname]

Bookies give us 8/11 odds to win and PSG 11/10. 

Gives us about 30% chance to get top two on paper

 

Think they are way to optimistic on PSGs odds though, they havent been any good away from home. 

 

 

Edited November 29, 2023 by Displayname

[jack j]

6 minutes ago, Displayname said:

Bookies give us 8/11 odds to win and PSG 11/10. 

Gives us about 30% chance to get top two on paper

 

Think they are way to optimistic on PSGs odds though, they havent been any good away from home. 

 

 

 

They're 2/5 to qualify we are 7/4

[Disco]

Europa League Knockout round play-offs are on 15 and 22 February 2024 if we do end up coming third in the group. Either side of Bournemouth at home.

[The Prophet]

The bookies will just be pricing on the basis that it's in PSG's hands and we have to win.

[Solitude20]

Might be an unpopular opinion, but I wouldn’t mind it if we end up third and going for the EL.
 

On paper, we are stronger than all other teams in that competition except Liverpool. We will be getting stronger and more ambitious every season, so next seasons it would be even less attractive to go there. Now’s the season to make it far there. And then if we win it, we guarantee another UCL seat the next season in case we end up 6th in the league or something. 

[Kid Icarus]

That group gets pulled out of the pot and you're told at the time that with a game to go a win or draw will guarantee Europa League football, and a win and a result going our way means we go through. You'd be delighted with that and I am delighted with that, regardless of the context. 

 

 

Edited November 29, 2023 by Kid Icarus

[CM1961]

We know Paris SG have to win away at Dortmund if we beat Milan at home

 

Dortmund have only lost 1 home game in all competitions since 20 August 2022 ... over 15 months ... and that was Beyen Munich

 

Bet365 odds - Dortmund or draw 5/6 - PSG win 10/11 - 52% to 48% for our favoured result.

 

PSG have only won 4 out of 8 away matches this season (all competitions).

 

In the Champions League they've lost both of their away matches - lost 4-1 to us and lost 2-1 to Milan.

 

We've still got a good chance if we sink Milan !

 

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

That group gets pulled out of the pot and you're told at the time that with a game to go a win or draw will guarantee Europa League football, and a win and a result going our way means we go through. You'd be delighted with that and I am delighted with that, regardless of the context. 

 

I'm delighted with that fact but I'm still raging about everything else. 

[BShearer]

before the Milan game I want some lawyer questioning their officials about Tonali to set the tone.

[Kanj]

all white kit at home, again, please. 

[jackyboy]

Dortmund will already be top of the group so might play a weakened side against PSG

[Paullow]

Dortmund do have a winter break coming up but their schedule for the next 3 week's is hectic, with no midweek off.

 

Sun A

Wed, cup A

Sat A

Wed, PSG H

Sat A

Tue H

 

They will still want to get something to top the group, potentially make a statement, knock out PSG, send home fans happy etc. but if they were going to lose any of those 6 matches then this would likely be the one they would prefer, so there likely will be a few changes, especially with the older players.

 

 

 

[Geogaddi]

2 minutes ago, jackyboy said:

Dortmund will already be top of the group so might play a weakened side against PSG

I thought this originally but they will surely want to win the group and get one of them teams that come second .

[Guest]

Final group game at SJP to decide if we're Last 16, Europa League, or bumming it back home in the league cup and FA cup. Atmosphere should be rocking.

[CM1961]

1 minute ago, jackyboy said:

Dortmund will already be top of the group so might play a weakened side against PSG

 

But if PSG beat them, Dortmund would drop to 2nd in the group and face tougher opposition in the next round.  They would play a team who has won their group.

 

I don't think they will play a weakened side and they won't want to lose.

[Geordie Ahmed]

3 minutes ago, jackyboy said:

Dortmund will already be top of the group so might play a weakened side against PSG

They won't top the group if they lose to PSG so they do have an incentive to avoid defeat 

[Paullow]

5 minutes ago, jackyboy said:

Dortmund will already be top of the group so might play a weakened side against PSG

Na, they know if PSG win, PSG will defo top the group, regardless of score due to H2H, so there is at least something to play for, and there isn't a perfect result to suit either side, which is a bonus, but it probably will be treated as the least important of their aforementioned 6 matches in quick succession, and to be fair, with 3 wins in a row, 2 of them away, they've kind of earned the right to do how they please.

 

 

Edited November 29, 2023 by Paullow

[LFEE]

Last night was the best away end by some distance of three UCL’s and that was before we scored before anyone asks. 

[Disco]

You’d hope with BVB more or less out of the title race in Germany and out of the cup they’d value the coming top of the group. You never know though. Even dropping half a % can be the difference. Just need to make sure we do our job and then we can have no complaints either way.