gdm Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 3 minutes ago, STM said: Lies, damned lies and statistics. Those stats don't indicate he's better than Miggy, merely that he played better than Miggy in the league he is in. It does suggest that there is potentially a quality player there though. You'd have to be crackers to hang your hat on the kid without more data and a proper look in training and in friendlies, which I hope we do. I've seen dozens of "wonderkids" from many leagues turn up and not be up too much. Should we give him a chance? Hell yes. Should we go wild if we accept a decent offer for him? Hell no. IMO obvs. That’s all anyone is asking. That Howe has a look and if he decides to sell him that’s fine but selling him because of ffp without even looking at him in preseason would be a bit shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey47 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 10 minutes ago, STM said: Lies, damned lies and statistics. Those stats don't indicate he's better than Miggy, merely that he played better than Miggy in the league he is in. It does suggest that there is potentially a quality player there though. You'd have to be crackers to hang your hat on the kid without more data and a proper look in training and in friendlies, which I hope we do. I've seen dozens of "wonderkids" from many leagues turn up and not be up too much. Should we give him a chance? Hell yes. Should we go wild if we accept a decent offer for him? Hell no. IMO obvs. I get where you’re coming from but I think everyone saying “it’s only the eredevise” also need to ask themselves how many teenagers have performed on that level in the eredevise or even lower quality leagues. I don’t think it will be many. I don’t think Miggy would get anywhere near those stats even if he was playing in that league. Edited June 14 by Joey47 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, Joey47 said: I get where you’re coming from but I think everyone saying “it’s only the eredevise” also need to ask themselves how many teenagers have performed on that level in the eredevise or even lower quality leagues. I don’t think it will be many. I don’t think Miggy would get anywhere near those stats even if he was playing in that league. Just to be clear, I'd say the same of any young player, in any league, apart from perhaps La Liga, where the standard is comparable to the PL. Worth baring in mind that the Eredivise is comparable to the Championship, more than the PL but you'd be hard pressed for many of our fans looking to sign players from that league (yes we already own Minteh). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey47 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, STM said: Just to be clear, I'd say the same of any young player, in any league, apart from perhaps La Liga, where the standard is comparable to the PL. Worth baring in mind that the Eredivise is comparable to the Championship, more than the PL but you'd be hard pressed for many of our fans looking to sign players from that league (yes we already own Minteh). Yeah that’s fair. I would also admit that personally I tend to get overly excited about young players showing such promise. Especially a player like Minteh who is not only putting up great stats but also flair, confidence and pace which is everything I want to see in a winger. On top of that he seems to do a lot of defensive and pressing work. I’m often wrong though, I thought Mudryk would become one of the best wingers in the world when he was leaving Shaktar to go to Chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Minteh compares favourably to any youngster who isn't in an elite league. Compare Olise in the Champ or Minteh in Eredivisie - Minteh's had the better season. It helps that Minteh was in the best team but still. Not only is he productive - he has physical gifts. At the least - he's a legit wonderkid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 I get the feeling Minteh could be an absolute star with the right coaching. He's an endless engine, absurd presser of the football and he's got a howitzer of a left peg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 He's got nothing on Freddy Adu, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 2 hours ago, gdm said: That’s all anyone is asking. That Howe has a look and if he decides to sell him that’s fine but selling him because of ffp without even looking at him in preseason would be a bit shit Howe himself said he's been following him closely during his stint at Feyenoord, and would have been privy to all sorts of information regarding his progress. He might well feel comfortable making a decision based on that alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Sky Info - These three players are among those on the list of the new #BVB coach Nuri Sahin (35/ ): Yankuba Minteh (19/ ), Ferdi Kadıoğlu (25/ ) and Jerdy Schouten (27/ ). Minteh, who impressed on loan at Feyenoord Rotterdam and is returning to Newcastle for the time being, is one of several candidates for the wing - if another transfer of Jadon Sancho does not work out or one of the candidates for sale (Malen/Adeyemi) leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 This lad might prove to be our best player to never play for us! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Just now, Coffee_Johnny said: This lad might prove to be our best player to never play for us! I hope he gets the chance under Eddie in pre season, or at worst we loan him out. I appreciate profit and all but he “could” be our future RW solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 A loan at Dortmund could be a decent move for everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 8 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: This lad might prove to be our best player to never play for us! This is how fkd up psr/ffp is. Sell your best player or one of your most promising young players to one of the top teams, or we’ll fine and deduct points from you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 hour ago, Joelinton7 said: This is how fkd up psr/ffp is. Sell your best player or one of your most promising young players to one of the top teams, or we’ll fine and deduct points from you. It all about fairness you know! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 hour ago, Magpie said: A loan at Dortmund could be a decent move for everyone if he's good enough for dortmund - he's good enough for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Just now, huss9 said: if he's good enough for dortmund - he's good enough for us. Loaning a player in a position we need to strengthen to the Champions League finalists? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 15 minutes ago, huss9 said: if he's good enough for dortmund - he's good enough for us. Sounds Dodgy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 39 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said: Sounds Dodgy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
catlover24 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Makes sense to loan him out if the loan fee helps with FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 3 hours ago, huss9 said: if he's good enough for dortmund - he's good enough for us. Christ do you want us to do a Leeds? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 4 hours ago, Joelinton7 said: This is how fkd up psr/ffp is. Sell your best player or one of your most promising young players to one of the top teams, or we’ll fine and deduct points from you. Aye. Did everything right. Found someone with promise, signed him for a modest fee, loaned him out to get experience and battle-test him and get him ready for your team everything thus far has worked out, a club can do no more right than that.....but are forced to sell player for new legislation only Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 If he's good enough for Dortmund he is good enough for us. Solves our problem of RW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 12 minutes ago, duo said: If he's good enough for Dortmund he is good enough for us. Solves our problem of RW. Got to give him a chance this season. It would be absolute stupidity to loan him out again, even if we buy a new RW he should be kept as first back up. It's time we got rid of mediocre players like Almiron and Murphy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 minute ago, Beth said: Got to give him a chance this season. It would be absolute stupidity to loan him out again, even if we buy a new RW he should be kept as first back up. It's time we got rid of mediocre players like Almiron and Murphy. Think Almiron will go. Murphy may stay as versatile down the right side. Agree that Minteh might be a very good back up to our RW upgrade with a view to taking that place if he reaches his ceiling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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