JEToon Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 (edited) I wouldn't be too arsed for seeing 3 CB's on the park plus a couple of full backs personally. As the likes of Arteta has alluded to pretty recently teams play about 30 or 40 formations during a game anyway these days, you want players who can go and play in a raft of those and go and do a shift in a loads of areas during a game. A "shape" of 3-5-2/3-4-3 is already played by us during games about 20 times but it is just used with the likes of Bruno taking the ball rather than someone like Kelly seeing more of it, or as has happened in the team posted above basically Kelly on the pitch at expense of Barnes, I would take a hard pass on that, I don't think that makes us better personally. Edited October 18 by JEToon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 4 hours ago, Heron said: He is. I'm not disputing that. It's just funny that when someone like Longstaff makes themselves available for the ball and gets in good positions that element of his game is entirely overlooked in any critiquing by certain folk and the focus then switches to how shit he was with the ball in whatever given circumstance. Yet for someone like Tonali, who we should rightly expect more of because he's a better player - folk switch to whatever positive spin they want to put on it. If a player is passing the ball lots and accurately then surely that suggests he is also readily available to receive the ball. Yet the same "makes himself available" seemingly isn'tever attributed to someone like Longstaff. Make no qualms about it. Tonali is a better player, by some stretch. I just feel that there's some discrepancy on how players are judged that's all. Part of the frustration is that Eddie seems to have a much longer leash for Sean. We all know it takes raw reps to get up to speed in the league, and Tonali, in some large part due to his own gambling issue, has yet to be given an extended run to really bed in. Would like to see him given a stretch of games so that he has an actual chance to adjust to prem play. A game or two, followed by a benching for not meeting our standards, not only feels unduly harsh given the leash others are provided, but also just poor management. We should be doing everything in our power to get Sandro up to speed because he's one of the few players we have who, by his talent alone, can singlehandedly impact the game and our fortunes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 Why take him off?!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 15 minutes ago, Ikon said: Why take him off?!? I remember that Liverpool game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 Not being funny, but could Bunce be a factor in Tonali's limited minutes? I'm giving a lot of leeway on decisions like minutes and games played for our players this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 25 minutes ago, Ikon said: Why take him off?!? Ridiculous call from Howe that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 taking him off was a crime. so he can repeatedly play 90 fro italy but not for us. needs to be in charge of all set pieces including corners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 2 hours ago, Mikky said: Ridiculous call from Howe that I think he was "gassed". This player is class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 Taking him off was a shocking decision.... He'd moved more central too and was playing really well. Then Bruno went off and I was even more perplexed. Perhaps it's because they'd played for their countries? Still wouldn't have taken them off. Isak would have been first off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 Insanity subbing him off every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 Bizarre decision to take him off. He’s been back going on 2 months and it wasn’t even an injury. Gets his 90s for Italy and we seem to have to restrict his minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ikon Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 Get a damn #10 that can play between the lines of Isak and our CM. He would be able to play those neat short one touch line braking passes way more often. Also make Isak less isolated. Or at least a creative attacking midfielder so that we can have some more depth in our play going forward. Too predictable now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 8 minutes ago, Ikon said: Get a damn #10 that can play between the lines of Isak and our CM. He would be able to play those neat short one touch line braking passes way more often. Also make Isak less isolated. Or at least a creative attacking midfielder so that we can have some more depth in our play going forward. Too predictable now. We’ve built a squad without a 10 and without a RW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 Stick him on all set pieces from now on, there’s a reason he had the most assists in Seria A from set pieces when at AC Milan, wtf are we not using his strengths? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 Our set pieces are fucking awful as well at the min. Surely he'll be put on them soon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 26 minutes ago, lovejoy said: Our set pieces are fucking awful as well at the min. Surely he'll be put on them soon? Said this a few weeks back - our set pieces (corners, crosses) are the worst in the league imo - absolutely honking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 31 minutes ago, lovejoy said: Our set pieces are fucking awful as well at the min. Surely he'll be put on them soon? I’d love to know what we do on the training ground for them. They are easily the worst in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 16 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: I’d love to know what we do on the training ground for them. They are easily the worst in the league. There was a time when we were so inventive with them. Where the fuck did that go? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 29 minutes ago, Mikky said: Said this a few weeks back - our set pieces (corners, crosses) are the worst in the league imo - absolutely honking Can't work it out, trippier got worse by the week and hall was bad today. Bruno, tonali fuck even schar can put a good ball in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 51 minutes ago, Mikky said: Said this a few weeks back - our set pieces (corners, crosses) are the worst in the league imo - absolutely honking I’ve said this half a dozen times but whoever is responsible for them is fucking shit at their job. They’re the worst I’ve ever seen them for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 2 hours ago, Ikon said: Get a damn #10 that can play between the lines of Isak and our CM. He would be able to play those neat short one touch line braking passes way more often. Also make Isak less isolated. Or at least a creative attacking midfielder so that we can have some more depth in our play going forward. Too predictable now. I hear you but the 10 is a dead position currently. Can't think of many 10s in the modern game. Especially in England. I'm playing devils advocate as I agree we need a link between cm and cf. I think the easier and more logical option is to get a traditional cdm who frees Bruno up to play that type of role. What do I know I'm just a football manager addict. Id like to see a proper disrupter who plays as a 3rd CB when needed. Joelinton is a box to box. We need a player who sits back. Just my observation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 Thank god the cameras aren't cutting to the bench to show some neek cunt on the bench every time we score one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaj Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 On 19/10/2024 at 22:55, Sufi said: I hear you but the 10 is a dead position currently. Can't think of many 10s in the modern game. Especially in England. I'm playing devils advocate as I agree we need a link between cm and cf. I think the easier and more logical option is to get a traditional cdm who frees Bruno up to play that type of role. What do I know I'm just a football manager addict. Id like to see a proper disrupter who plays as a 3rd CB when needed. Joelinton is a box to box. We need a player who sits back. Just my observation I think Tonali looked decent playing deepest. Maybe we could have Tonali central and release Bruno further forward. Would like to see a midfield three of Willock - Tonali - Bruno at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 18 minutes ago, Vaj said: I think Tonali looked decent playing deepest. Maybe we could have Tonali central and release Bruno further forward. Would like to see a midfield three of Willock - Tonali - Bruno at some point. Willock was totally and utterly anonymous on Saturday, while Joelinton was everywhere from the first minute. But you do you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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