Ronaldo Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 hours ago, LFEE said: I see Kalvin Phillips got hooked at HT. Apparently had another mare. Not sure what people thought he’d bring to us after little to no game time for two years and even less hunger to achieve. Don’t wish ill on him as probably a nice lad but glad we never went near him. He’s actually a very nice lad with a lovely mum too. I really hope he succeeds wherever he ends up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 15 hours ago, Lotus said: Can’t agree. He’s very competitive, great engine, tactical awareness and an incredible range of passing. Him instead of Longstaff would be like having 12 players on the pitch. You don't agree he's a dickhead? I mean fair enough that's your opinion but he definitely is. Like I said, on footballing ability he gets in the team no doubt. But everything else that comes with him means I'd never want him in our team being the little ratty twat that he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 4 hours ago, Mazzy said: You don't agree he's a dickhead? I mean fair enough that's your opinion but he definitely is. Like I said, on footballing ability he gets in the team no doubt. But everything else that comes with him means I'd never want him in our team being the little ratty twat that he is. How did you feel about Anthony Gordon when he was at Everton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 4 minutes ago, Lotus said: How did you feel about Anthony Gordon when he was at Everton? I thought he was a petulant child, who acted the way he believed he should act. Not a near on 30yr old man who should know better but still chooses to act they way he does every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Well, we can disagree. I like Fernandes as a player and wished he played for us. But, it’s all moot I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I could never enjoy watching Bruno F at NUFC after the last few years he's spent at Man Utd. Had we signed him from Sporting though I reckon I'd feel different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 12 hours ago, LFEE said: I see Kalvin Phillips got hooked at HT. Apparently had another mare. Not sure what people thought he’d bring to us after little to no game time for two years and even less hunger to achieve. Don’t wish ill on him as probably a nice lad but glad we never went near him. I was desperate for us to sign him from Leeds and would have taken him from City in a heart beat. Whatever he had, he’s not found it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 11 hours ago, toon25 said: If Eddie was given the money Arteta was given, we'd be competing with them in a year or two Howe has been - he’s spent more than Arteta on average per window. Arteta has had an extra two years, and a much better starting position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Arteta has had a far larger wage budget as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monters Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: Howe has been - he’s spent more than Arteta on average per window. Arteta has had an extra two years, and a much better starting position. Not sure the maths back this up, close last season a million extra for them but net spend was more for us, but Howe's first year Arsenal spent more circa 66 million more and this year they spent circa 80 million more His additional seasons were 160 & 86 million so overall circa 400 million more even if you add the cash we spent on Willock before Howe arrived. If transfer market has let me down then I will hastily retreat! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Arsenal are in a league above financially. Can't compare them. And they have a productive academy that generates revenue and their best player. Anyway rumours Olise has a £60m release clause. I think he would be a beast under Eddie but seems injury prone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 hours ago, Coffee_Johnny said: 15 hours ago, LFEE said: I see Kalvin Phillips got hooked at HT. Apparently had another mare. Not sure what people thought he’d bring to us after little to no game time for two years and even less hunger to achieve. Don’t wish ill on him as probably a nice lad but glad we never went near him. I was desperate for us to sign him from Leeds and would have taken him from City in a heart beat. Whatever he had, he’s not found it again. He's only been out of Man City five minutes, like. There's a very good player in there, would put good money on him finding form again once he has an actual run in a team. He's not exactly joined a particularly well-functioning team, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: He's only been out of Man City five minutes, like. There's a very good player in there, would put good money on him finding form again once he has an actual run in a team. He's not exactly joined a particularly well-functioning team, mind. Yeah, I find these posts odd when we have a manager who has regularly proven he can get the most out of players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) On 09/03/2024 at 17:16, SUPERTOON said: Welcome home, sweet prince. Edited March 11 by Deuce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, Yorkie said: He's only been out of Man City five minutes, like. There's a very good player in there, would put good money on him finding form again once he has an actual run in a team. He's not exactly joined a particularly well-functioning team, mind. 1 hour ago, timeEd32 said: Yeah, I find these posts odd when we have a manager who has regularly proven he can get the most out of players. They were actually in very good form until he joined. Beating Spurs and Arsenal away, Man Utd at home alone in December as well as Wolves and Burnley only losing to Liverpool with a second string team in the Cup but winning twice in Europe and draw against Brighton. Depite his style of play Moyes is no mug let’s be fair and as it stands West Ham are 3 points above us whilst still in Europe. Wasn’t trying to be particularly critical of KP but highlighting those who thought we were being brainless for not loaning him to fix our final run of the season when he’d need to be bedded in here as well as his fitness regained made a massive misjudgement and so far have been proven wrong and those like me thinking he wouldn’t be a quick fix right. Even long term I would’ve had my doubts as I believe he has lost some of that hunger we would demand from what would be an expensive signing for us. He’s on £140kpw which is £30kpw more than Joelinton was demanding and struggling to agree. That and EH doesn’t play with a 6. I’ve never rated him that highly personally and at 28-29 I can’t see him massively improving. He could prove me wrong next season of course but I think we’ll find someone better for less money. The only box he ticked for me was he doesn’t come across as a dickhead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Arsenal are in a league above financially. Can't compare them. And they have a productive academy that generates revenue and their best player. Anyway rumours Olise has a £60m release clause. I think he would be a beast under Eddie but seems injury prone. I'm maybe thinking of the wrong player, but isn't Olise nearly as one footed as Almiron? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, Shearergol said: I'm maybe thinking of the wrong player, but isn't Olise nearly as one footed as Almiron? Potentially. But that left foot is a wand and Miggy's left foot is not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 minutes ago, Shearergol said: I'm maybe thinking of the wrong player, but isn't Olise nearly as one footed as Almiron? He is but Olise is a more natural winger - Miggy isn’t - he’s probs more of a 10 hence why his output (Miggy) isn’t as high as it should be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 11 minutes ago, Mikky said: He is but Olise is a more natural winger - Miggy isn’t - he’s probs more of a 10 hence why his output (Miggy) isn’t as high as it should be I don't agree with that. I think Olise could be brilliant at 10 and I don't think Miggy output would be any better at 10. Olise is a talented technician overall. Miggy is not. IMO anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 28 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I don't agree with that. I think Olise could be brilliant at 10 and I don't think Miggy output would be any better at 10. Olise is a talented technician overall. Miggy is not. IMO anyway. No what I am saying is that we are playing Miggy in a position that he’s not a natural in - think before coming here he’d always been a 10? You can tell by the way he plays he isn’t a natural - that’s not say if we play him 10 he’d set the world on fire as he has a ceiling which we are probably maximizing hence the need to significantly upgrade him in the summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I'd back Eddie Howe to get the best out of Kalvin Phillips over Moyes and that's no slight on Moyes who I actually rate very highly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 17 minutes ago, Kanji said: I'd back Eddie Howe to get the best out of Kalvin Phillips over Moyes and that's no slight on Moyes who I actually rate very highly. Not middle of the season though. He’d need a June 16th move once the window opens, rigorous pre season plan and plenty of time to get up to speed. Glad we made Wist Am the fall guys on this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 7 hours ago, Monters said: Not sure the maths back this up, close last season a million extra for them but net spend was more for us, but Howe's first year Arsenal spent more circa 66 million more and this year they spent circa 80 million more His additional seasons were 160 & 86 million so overall circa 400 million more even if you add the cash we spent on Willock before Howe arrived. If transfer market has let me down then I will hastily retreat! It’s an average per window I’m referring to - Arteta has been there an extra two years. Based on transfermarkt: Howe - €440m over five windows = €88m per window Arteta - €683m over nine windows = €76m per window Edited March 11 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 8 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: It’s an average per window I’m referring to - Arteta has been there an extra two years. Based on transfermarkt: Howe - €440m over five windows = €88m per window Arteta - €683m over nine windows = €76m per window You need to factor wage bill in when doing comparisons like this. I agree NET spend usually the fairest when making purchase comparisons but it’s always going to go against us for a few years as we had no one of much worth to sell due to squad neglect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Watching tonight I fail to see what someone like Onana would really add, where crying out for quality on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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