madras Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 2 hours ago, Beth said: No, we only need a RW, ST and CB. Howe does not play with a dedicated DM, and if he decided to I'd imagine Tonali would be a suitable choice. Likewise his system does not have a no 10 role either. As for LB, we are stowed off with them, they just all happen to be mediocre or injured. Tino is more than capable of filling in there whilst we vainly hope Targett or Hall will come good. His system at Bournemouth wasn't what he uses here so why does anyone we bring in just have to be an upgrade but on a like for like manner ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 Last summer's transfer window was a total fuck up. Four players brought in (3 of them squad players) and less than 25% of games played between the four of them. We must concentrate on genuine first team players moving forward as ultimately that will also improve the squad (I said this last year also). The dead wood out of contract have to be dropped to free up wages and some of the players moved on (Almiron, Longstaff, Wilson). Big summer coming up in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 5 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Income for next season - allowing for finishing top half - will likely be around £300m £300m x 70% = £210m budget for wages and transfers Current wage bill = c.£90m £210m - £90m = £120m Likely transfer amortisation on books = c.£90m £120m - £90m = £30m So around £30m, which allowing for amortisation might be £100m+ (plus incomings) That’s not allowing for Hall’s £30m fee mind I’d also be very surprised if we went for a LB, given we’ve got five players on our books atm who can play there. RW, CB and a back up CF would be priorities for me You can take £5-7m off for Hall for starters. Three new players on £75k/week is another £10-12m. That leaves £10-15m on amortised transfer fees which assuming we go to the maximum of 5 years is £50-75m on fees. It's really difficult to predict though because an extra £5m either way on turnover can skew it by multiples of five! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 Got to imagine Ritchie, Dummett, Hendrick, Lewis, Hayden, Fraser and one or two others will disappear off that wage bill like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 Ritchie's staying 10 more years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, et tu brute said: Last summer's transfer window was a total fuck up. Four players brought in (3 of them squad players) and less than 25% of games played between the four of them. We must concentrate on genuine first team players moving forward as ultimately that will also improve the squad (I said this last year also). The dead wood out of contract have to be dropped to free up wages and some of the players moved on (Almiron, Longstaff, Wilson). Big summer coming up in my opinion. It's been a short-term disaster, but largely due to bad luck (Hall aside, perhaps). I'm still confident (barring an extended ban for Tonali) that most if not all of the signings will come good in the medium to long term. Edited March 16, 2024 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 1 hour ago, NSG said: Got to imagine Ritchie, Dummett, Hendrick, Lewis, Hayden, Fraser and one or two others will disappear off that wage bill like. Whose contracts are up this summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 8 minutes ago, The Prophet said: It's been a short-term disaster, but largely due to bad luck (Hall aside, perhaps). I'm still confident (barring an extended ban for Tonali), that most if not all of the signings will come good in the medium to long term. The Tonali situation has been a disaster because he was clearly bought with the champions league games in mind given his experience. I think he’ll come good. The club probably didn’t do enough to provide immediate impact players but the Barnes situation has been really really unfortunate with his toe injury. His goals would’ve made a huge difference (discussion aside over whether a RW upgrade might’ve been more appropriate). Howe is saying there won’t be a total overhaul due to PSR, but you’d have to think there’s going to have to be a fairly major transformation clearing out deadwood and securing a few key positions in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 We need a RW and a creative CM, possibly a DM aswell. Whoever we go for, I just hope physicality and stamina aren't the defining factors in the decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 16 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: The Tonali situation has been a disaster because he was clearly bought with the champions league games in mind given his experience. I think he’ll come good. The club probably didn’t do enough to provide immediate impact players but the Barnes situation has been really really unfortunate with his toe injury. His goals would’ve made a huge difference (discussion aside over whether a RW upgrade might’ve been more appropriate). Howe is saying there won’t be a total overhaul due to PSR, but you’d have to think there’s going to have to be a fairly major transformation clearing out deadwood and securing a few key positions in the summer. I think we'll bring the usual three to four, which providing they're in the required positions would be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 23 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: Whose contracts are up this summer? Dummett, Ritchie and Hendrick are up this summer. Also Karius and Gilliespie. Next year - Dubravka, Trippier, Schar, Lascelles, Joelinton, Wilson, Krafth, Burn, Fraser, Lewis. Hayden has two more years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 6 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said: Dummett, Ritchie and Hendrick are up this summer. Also Karius and Gilliespie. Next year - Dubravka, Trippier, Schar, Lascelles, Joelinton, Wilson, Krafth, Burn, Fraser, Lewis. Hayden has two more years. It's clear evidence, if needed that the biggest obstacle to "swift" progression hasn't been Eddie Howe's alleged limitations, the owners "procrastination" or, even, the cartel. It's fucking Ashley. People going on about binning Eddie and getting an "elite" manager when, by their own estimations, we haven't got an elite squad. A squad full of "deadwood" no less. Tonali, Barnes and Tino were great signings, just went south fast ? Hall, granted, is a funny one but I accept what Howe presented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 Howe's wanted a fluid midfield 3, the calls for a dedicated DM probably fall on deaf ears. Maybe he'll change his mind for next season mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 2 hours ago, et tu brute said: Last summer's transfer window was a total fuck up. Four players brought in (3 of them squad players) and less than 25% of games played between the four of them. We must concentrate on genuine first team players moving forward as ultimately that will also improve the squad (I said this last year also). The dead wood out of contract have to be dropped to free up wages and some of the players moved on (Almiron, Longstaff, Wilson). Big summer coming up in my opinion. We signed a Champions League-level centre-midfielder, a goal-scoring winger and one of the brightest young defensive talents in the league. How is that a total fuck up unless we knew Tonali and Barnes weren't going to play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 If we are restricted again in the summer due to FFP as seems likely, I really hope we focus on what we need and not what’s available. I’m all for us being opportunistic regarding long term targets, however I don’t think we can afford to do that this summer at say the expense of a top RW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 1 hour ago, joeyt said: Ritchie's staying 10 more years You joke but... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 (edited) At this point I’d be fucking over the moon with Diomande, Mamardashvili, Ederson, Gibbs-White and a young striker. We’d be a left back short but surely they’ll have shown Hall how to defend by next season. Edited March 16, 2024 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 3 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: At this point I’d be fucking over the moon with Diomande, Mamardashvili, Ederson, Gibbs-White and a young striker. We’d be a left back short but surely they’ll have shown Hall how to defend by next season. I think you're living in cloud cuckoo land if you think we're bringing in all of those but not losing someone valuable to the first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: I think you're living in cloud cuckoo land if you think we're bringing in all of those but not losing someone valuable to the first team. Unlikely I agree unless Joelinton doesn’t sign a new contract. Still think we’ll get a few off the wage bill this summer if where ruthless. Edited March 16, 2024 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 1 minute ago, Whitley mag said: Unlikely I agree unless Joelinton doesn’t sign a new contract. Still think we’ll get a few off the wage bill this summer if where ruthless. Christ, he has to sign that contract otherwise we're struggling massively. We'll hopefully see the back of one or two but I'd be hoping for less quantity more quality than the 5 you mentioned there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 Not a NUFC rumour, but keep seeing the videos of Toney twerking for a move on a sky sports interview Other than Arsenal (who I could see not wanting him due to Havertz having a lot of his qualities), who else would be after him? If he only has a year left, wonder if we would be tempted if a low fee, even though he doesn't fit our usual buying criteria (age, no dick heads etc) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 Toney would be a great signing for us, at the right price, would fit in well with Tripps and Sandro. That ships sailed though, as he missed the boat during the Rafalution. Shame the club had no strategy back then and didn’t realise we had a borderline elite striker out on loan. I heard Rafa wasn’t even briefed on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 14 minutes ago, janpawel said: Not a NUFC rumour, but keep seeing the videos of Toney twerking for a move on a sky sports interview Other than Arsenal (who I could see not wanting him due to Havertz having a lot of his qualities), who else would be after him? If he only has a year left, wonder if we would be tempted if a low fee, even though he doesn't fit our usual buying criteria (age, no dick heads etc) Striker wise he’d be perfect for us but the combination of cost and questionable personality means I just don’t see it. He’ll surely end up at Chelsea as he’s exactly what we need. I think we’ll go abroad for a striker but either way Wilson definitely needs replacing as a number 2 striker or joint rotational striker with Isak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 Absolutely no chance we're spending £50m+ on a striker unless Isak goes imo. That guy from Portugal linked earlier is the sort of market we'd be shopping in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 What do people think are our priorities in terms of position? 1) RW 2) Striker 3) Pacey CB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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