ryanegg Posted May 1, 2024 Share Posted May 1, 2024 24 minutes ago, Stuy_O said: His quality is never in question tbf, and certainly won't be to the club. It's the availability. Considering this and his age if a decent offer comes in it has to be considered. I really think if he wasn’t forced to play so early returning from injury and/or because Isak was injured, we would of seen a lot more of him this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 1, 2024 Share Posted May 1, 2024 12 hours ago, Kimbo said: Rashford looks like an odd player these days. If the effort was there but it just wasn’t working for him, I’d say a move to a different team could turn things around. But he plays like some office worker that has quiet quit. After hearing about Dele Ali’s problems I wonder if there’s something deeper going on with him. There was a decent piece by him by Andy Mitton a while back that touched on this. Worth a read or listen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 7 hours ago, ryanegg said: I really think if he wasn’t forced to play so early returning from injury and/or because Isak was injured, we would of seen a lot more of him this season. It’ll be very interesting to see what the club does with Wilson. The ideal situation is we bring in another really good young striker AND Wilson stays and we have 3 strikers. Whether he’s happy with that or whether we’re happy to cash in say if a promoted club wants to take a punt on him with a contract. Tosin and Kelly make perfect sense in terms of defensive reinforcements and free transfers as it frees up money for players in the striking and wing areas. I’m also intrigued what happens at LB and what Howe things if Hall in terms of his readiness to start next season and Targett. Is he going to use Targett as the steady Eddie player to rotate with Hall and have Kelly (assuming he signs) as the emergency LB or will they move Targett on in the summer and bring someone else in? I’m not convinced Hall is ready to be the bonafide starting LB for us and I’d love us to sign a really solid experienced attacking LB but they cost money. Summer will be very interesting indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 2 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: It’ll be very interesting to see what the club does with Wilson. The ideal situation is we bring in another really good young striker AND Wilson stays and we have 3 strikers. Whether he’s happy with that or whether we’re happy to cash in say if a promoted club wants to take a punt on him with a contract. Tosin and Kelly make perfect sense in terms of defensive reinforcements and free transfers as it frees up money for players in the striking and wing areas. I’m also intrigued what happens at LB and what Howe things if Hall in terms of his readiness to start next season and Targett. Is he going to use Targett as the steady Eddie player to rotate with Hall and have Kelly (assuming he signs) as the emergency LB or will they move Targett on in the summer and bring someone else in? I’m not convinced Hall is ready to be the bonafide starting LB for us and I’d love us to sign a really solid experienced attacking LB but they cost money. Summer will be very interesting indeed. It’s really interesting, in Targett and Wilson you have two players who I’d be absolutely gagging to get rid of to create some PSR Leeway. These are two players who aren’t going to improve or be first choice and absolute prime candidates to move on this FFP constricted world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 (edited) 6 minutes ago, r0cafella said: It’s really interesting, in Targett and Wilson you have two players who I’d be absolutely gagging to get rid of to create some PSR Leeway. These are two players who aren’t going to improve or be first choice and absolute prime candidates to move on this FFP constricted world. Howe always talks Targett up but due to Burns form and his injuries he’s barely kicked a ball recently. Realistically how much is he going to play moving forwards? Wilson also seems like a no brainer to move on in terms of the financial aspect. Plus if club brings in a young, exciting 2nd striking option (e.g Sekso type signing) then he becomes a bit part player and I’m still not convinced he’d be happy with that considering he still has a few decent years left in him. Time will tell. I still think we need 3 strikers even if the 3rd option is Wilson or a young development option. Edited May 2, 2024 by ExiledGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 4 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: Howe always talks Targett up but due to Burns form and his injuries he’s barely kicked a ball recently. Realistically how much is he going to play moving forwards? Wilson also seems like a no brainer to move on in terms of the financial aspect. Plus if club brings in a young, exciting 2nd striking option (e.g Sekso type signing) then he becomes a bit part player and I’m still not convinced he’d be happy with that considering he still has a few decent years left in him. Time will tell. I still think we need 3 strikers even if the 3rd option is Wilson or a young development option. Yeah and that’s the issue we face this year, can we get rid of bit part players and free up so money to reinvest. as the club themselves have pointed out, we simply have to player trade so it’s a case of picking our poison as best we can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 9 hours ago, mighty__mag said: Hayden 50k Hendrick 50k Fraser 63k Lewis 40k Targett 100k WTF Targett is on way more than half the squad and some of our top players, think he's like fourth highest earner behind Bruno, Trippier, Isak. Assume he's behind Joelinton, Gordon, Barnes, Tonali, Botman and Wilson too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 9 hours ago, mighty__mag said: Hayden 50k Hendrick 50k Fraser 63k Lewis 40k Targett 100k WTF Targett is on way more than half the squad and some of our top players, think he's like fourth highest earner behind Bruno, Trippier, Isak. If Targett is on such wages, you've got to pretty much reflect that in your transfer value. As I've said before, if you are Leicester, Ipswich, Everton, Wolves, Fulham, Palace or Forest, you'd take Targett on those wages at a reduced price of say 6m. He's a proper PL left back. In fact, he's a good one... if you can keep him fit. 100k + 6m isn't a huge outlay for a PL left back, I'm sure some of those clubs already have players on more than that. Where as for us, that sort of return is fairly substantial, in terms of what we can turn it into. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 And yes, I'd forgotten all about Jamal Lewis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 8 minutes ago, Conjo said: Assume he's behind Joelinton, Gordon, Barnes, Tonali, Botman and Wilson too. This is what Capology reckon. Apparently the green tick means it’s been ‘verified’ (no idea how): *I’m not claiming this is 100% accurate btw. Certainly appears to have Wilson far too low. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 Hindsight is always 20/20 and all that but Targett was a poor signing imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 Just now, Menace said: Hindsight is always 20/20 and all that but Targett was a poor signing imo It’s a strange one because at the time it was a no brainer, but the injuries and the massive salary (if true) make it look a bit mad now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 Aye, and on top of that we end up buying Hall for double the price too. Odd signing I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 (edited) Aye, it was only bad with hindsight, so not something I'd lay on the transfer team. It was a great signing at the time and it's not turned out poorly for bad reasons, Burn cemented his place and Targett's been injured. I was relieved when we signed him, because it looked like we were looking elsewhere when we had a solid option on a silver platter. Edited May 2, 2024 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 Just now, Menace said: Aye, and on top of that we end up buying Hall for double the price too. Odd signing I guess. The reports at the time towards the end of the loan was Eddie not been too keen on Targett and we wanted Brunos other mate (I can’t remember his name). He’s going to be hard to shift if he’s in a 100k a week anarl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: The reports at the time towards the end of the loan was Eddie not been too keen on Targett and we wanted Brunos other mate (I can’t remember his name). He’s going to be hard to shift if he’s in a 100k a week anarl. Lodi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Lodi That’s the one thank you sir. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 Was linked last summer before West Ham got him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 (edited) Kudus seems like someone Liverpool or ManU could move for. Out of our reach certainly now. Edited May 2, 2024 by KingArthur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Was linked last summer before West Ham got him Way too expensive now for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: The reports at the time towards the end of the loan was Eddie not been too keen on Targett and we wanted Brunos other mate (I can’t remember his name). He’s going to be hard to shift if he’s in a 100k a week anarl. Another Dan Ashworth masterclass giving Targett top coin, expect nothing less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: The reports at the time towards the end of the loan was Eddie not been too keen on Targett and we wanted Brunos other mate (I can’t remember his name). He’s going to be hard to shift if he’s in a 100k a week anarl. https://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/the-moment-eddie-howe-told-matt-targett-he-wanted-to-sign-him-for-newcastle-united-from-aston-villa-3725056 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 Just now, Conjo said: https://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/the-moment-eddie-howe-told-matt-targett-he-wanted-to-sign-him-for-newcastle-united-from-aston-villa-3725056 I love Eddie but I take what he says with a handful of salt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: Was linked last summer before West Ham got him I wonder if the media are going to mention this release clause and name which clubs might want him every fucking day of the week now? Actually they probably will, given that West Ham aren't part of the elite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 2, 2024 Share Posted May 2, 2024 Just now, r0cafella said: I love Eddie but I take what he says with a handful of salt. In the media about new signings and injuries sure, but those are quotes from Targett saying Howe told him in private before the Burnley game (last game of 21/22 season) that he wanted to sign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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