Fak Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 I think Gordon is wise enough to understand the situation and it wasn't as straight-forward as, "The club are trying to force me out." He'll know fine well the club are absolutely desperate to keep him and what we did was out of total desperation. I'm sure he'll be absolutely fine once the season starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 It's pretty much a given that we haven't just offered him around without actually sitting the lad down and having a proper conversation to help him understand the situation.....right? I highly doubt we've allowed him to sit and stew over things to the point where he's flipped a desk and checked out of Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 30 minutes ago, TRon said: That figure of 3.5 years is fairly specific. Where would someone have got that from? I'm surprised it hasn't been shut down if it's not true, it's been circulating for a few weeks now. It is alway x,5 years when player is signed in January window. Might as well be 5,5 years. FFP-wise that makes no sense for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 26 minutes ago, TRon said: Just had a look on Transfermarket and according to that his contract expires Jun 30, 2026. This is exactly were everyone is taking the info, even though no official info is given anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 58 minutes ago, KingArthur said: I really dont trust this. We signed him in 2023 January with a "long term deal". 3,5 half years? Why would we do that? This is another thing I’d like us to clarify. A 3.5 year deal is crazy. All we heard at the time is ‘long term deal’. 3.5 years isn’t a long term deal. 5-6 years like we have with Isak is a long term deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 This transfer window suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks ...so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 Every transfer window sucks, until it doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 3.5 years for a big money signing would be comically incompetent, there’s no way it can be true. It would be proof that Ashworth is shite though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 16 minutes ago, Fak said: I think Gordon is wise enough to understand the situation and it wasn't as straight-forward as, "The club are trying to force me out." He'll know fine well the club are absolutely desperate to keep him and what we did was out of total desperation. I'm sure he'll be absolutely fine once the season starts. Why would he or his agent be wise enough to understand that? Theres bigger wages, more prestige and going home if he moves to Liverpool. If there’s genuine interest there’s no reason for him to be loyal to us beyond what is professional Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 37 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: It's pretty much a given that we haven't just offered him around without actually sitting the lad down and having a proper conversation to help him understand the situation.....right? I highly doubt we've allowed him to sit and stew over things to the point where he's flipped a desk and checked out of Newcastle. No that’s not a given tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayDen Traces Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 We need some positive news... badly. It would pick us all up hugely. Mitchell, come on fella - show us what you can do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: Why would he or his agent be wise enough to understand that? Theres bigger wages, more prestige and going home if he moves to Liverpool. If there’s genuine interest there’s no reason for him to be loyal to us beyond what is professional We all know Newcastle are absolutely desperate to keep ahold of Gordon. It was absolutely obvious to everyone that us offering him to Liverpool was out of sheer desperation. They're wise enough to understand that. If we know it, they know it. But that's not to say they won't use it to their advantage, they could still force a transfer through or get a new bumper deal at Newcastle. Me saying he'll be fine once the season start is a hunch based on the fact he seems a very switched on and level-headed kid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 1 hour ago, Rod said: Says the expert. Tbf Rod, you don’t need to be a chartered accountant to do the numbers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 17 minutes ago, Kimbo said: 3.5 years for a big money signing would be comically incompetent, there’s no way it can be true. It would be proof that Ashworth is shite though. Yep. Even from an amortisation point of view it would be bad news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 7 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Yep. Even from an amortisation point of view it would be bad news Might be a case of Gordon would only agree to a 3.5 year deal , he comes across as very ambitious and knows where he wants to end up so might not wanted to have committed to a longer deal . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 1 minute ago, Geogaddi said: Might be a case of Gordon would only agree to a 3.5 year deal , he comes across as very ambitious and knows where he wants to end up so might not wanted to have committed to a longer deal . No chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 Absolutely no chance we spent 40m+ on a 3.5 year deal. Not a chance in hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 4 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Absolutely no chance we spent 40m+ on a 3.5 year deal. Not a chance in hell. I hope not. Would be crackers if true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 29 minutes ago, Fak said: We all know Newcastle are absolutely desperate to keep ahold of Gordon. It was absolutely obvious to everyone that us offering him to Liverpool was out of sheer desperation. They're wise enough to understand that. If we know it, they know it. But that's not to say they won't use it to their advantage, they could still force a transfer through or get a new bumper deal at Newcastle. Me saying he'll be fine once the season start is a hunch based on the fact he seems a very switched on and level-headed kid. Staveley said it was Liverpool doing the chasing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, HayDen Traces said: We need some positive news... badly. It would pick us all up hugely. Mitchell, come on fella - show us what you can do. Lol I definitely too much time in this thread, but really doesn’t make much difference as long as players come in before the window shuts. As long as the business gets done, in a few months everyone will have forgotten how long it took. Yes ideally they join the squad early but At CB Schar and Burn will do the job and at RW Miggy and Murphy are decent. The first couple of games are also quite gentle by PL standards. It’s not actually urgent to make signings, even if it is important. Edited August 1, 2024 by WilliamPS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 50 minutes ago, huss9 said: Staveley said it was Liverpool doing the chasing I hope Liverpool aren't trying to upset Gordon and then use all their transfer fund on trying to buy him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 43 minutes ago, huss9 said: Staveley said it was Liverpool doing the chasing That's right. That said, it might've come as a shock to him that we didn't respond with a flat no. Slightly reminiscent of Ferdinand to Tottenham. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over this situation. I think it's going to work out ok for us one way or another. It's always felt plausible to me that Gordon would leave sooner than others - I don't want him to but he's very ambitious and we're hitting a sticky patch in our development, so if his PSR book value has gone down fast (a good thing), it makes sense for him to be a sacrifice. We've even got an oven ready replacement. Then again, he could be here for another decade. Hopefully so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 1 hour ago, Geogaddi said: Might be a case of Gordon would only agree to a 3.5 year deal , he comes across as very ambitious and knows where he wants to end up so might not wanted to have committed to a longer deal . In that case I would say fair enough and look for another target. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 I miss the days of double and triple signings being announced, feels like that hasn't been a thing for years? When was the last time - was it the French Revolution - Sissoko, Gouffran, Haidara, Debuchy and Yanga-Mbiwa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted August 1, 2024 Share Posted August 1, 2024 3 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: I miss the days of double and triple signings being announced, feels like that hasn't been a thing for years? When was the last time - was it the French Revolution - Sissoko, Gouffran, Haidara, Debuchy and Yanga-Mbiwa? A month ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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