NUFC Transfer Rumours

[gbandit]

@Zero credibility strikes again

[Mag3.14]

30 minutes ago, gdm said:

£60m

 

Todd boy clearly thinking because he chucks silly money everywhere others will too 
Be interesting what "creative" solution they'll come up with for FFP compliance this time - No more hotels, training grounds, or womans teams to "sell" this time round ... 

[Kid Icarus]

2 minutes ago, Zero said:

Some here suggested Madueke would be available around 27-28m.

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Both are sourced (if you believe them) from The Athlectic, so at least one of them's wrong. 

 

 

Edited August 16, 2024 by Kid Icarus

[Ben]

He's a Chelsea player so the fee could be anything 

[Guest]

 

 

 

[Zero]

4 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

Both are sourced (if you believe them) from The Athlectic, so at least one of them's wrong. 

 

 

 

Ah I just think the 27-8m figure sounds reasonable and then suddenly an insane figure pops out and the rest is history. No club would entertain that quoted price for a fringe player

[Kid Icarus]

Just now, Zero said:

Ah I just think the 27-8m figure sounds reasonable and then suddenly an insane figure pops out and the rest is history. No club would entertain that quoted price for a fringe player

 

I personally thought he'd be around £50m when we were first linked like. He is fringe but he's played a canny bit, 22 years old, English player tax, and they paid £28m for him. Getting him for £28m would be a bargain and sounds unrealistic, £60m+ is just silly and also unrealistic imo. 

[Terrymac1966]

I would take Logan Costa plus a decent right winger for that money. Costa £20mill leaves 30-40 for a RW

Too many eggs in this Gueyi basket its almost obsession

[SUPERTOON]

19 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Latest stuff from Douglas if anyone is interested:

 

Newcastle United are edging closer to a club record deal for Marc Guehi after tabling a fourth bid understood to be in the region of £65m.

 

The Magpies are one of several Premier League clubs “spinning plates” in the final fortnight of the transfer window with player exits still a possibility to facilitate further signings.

 

An insider predicted a “frantic” end to the summer, with the transfer market finally hotting up and Newcastle braced for bids for Kieran Trippier and Miguel Almiron, who was the subject of interest from Major League Soccer side Charlotte FC this week.

 

But it is England defender Guehi who has always been the club’s top central defender target, and a fourth offer to Palace that is closer to their asking price could finally bring an end the long-running saga

 

Palace are considering the bid and it may require further tweaks to the terms before they accept it – Chelsea have a sizeable, 20 per cent sell-on clause for Guehi – but the latest offer appears to have changed the mood music around the deal.

 

It looks increasingly as if Newcastle will be required to top the £63m they paid for Alexander Isak two years ago to broker a deal for Guehi and the size of the fee is why the club’s director of football Paul Mitchell has been attempting to drive a hard bargain.

 

Newcastle’s position under the Premier League’s Profit and Sustainability Rules (PSR) means every extra million paid out for Guehi is felt in their attempts to recruit elsewhere.

 

They are actively in the market for a right winger and are also understood to be looking at further “project players” in the mould of William Osula, who they signed from Sheffield United last week.

 

An unsettling summer has seen Newcastle lose Yankuba Minteh and Elliot Anderson, two of their outstanding young players, to comply with PSR while struggling to offload some players who are surplus to requirements.

 

Then there is a third column of players that Howe wants to keep in an ideal world but must contemplate selling to provide PSR headroom. One of those is Almiron but Howe insisted on Friday he remains a “very important player” in the Newcastle squad and, as i reported earlier this week, there is no desire to drive him out of the club.

Cannot stand the term mood music.

[Nucasol]

4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Cannot stand the term mood music.

Only mood music you need.

 

[TRon]

1 hour ago, gbandit said:

Good luck not detonating yourselves Chelsea. Everyone knows you want to sell him as you have too many players, you fucking idiots 

 

Tbf the £28m fee always seemed a daft figure and it seems it was pulled out of nowhere. £60m is obviously too much but Chelsea don't really need to sell as the FFP rules don't really apply to them.

[Fezzle]

57 minutes ago, Terrymac1966 said:

I would take Logan Costa plus a decent right winger for that money. Costa £20mill leaves 30-40 for a RW

Too many eggs in this Gueyi basket its almost obsession

I had never even heard of Costa til yesterday, whats he good at?

[Nucasol]

Just now, Fezzle said:

I had never even heard of Costa til yesterday, whats he good at?

Homophobia apparently.

[Fezzle]

2 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

Homophobia apparently.

Yeah thats all i have learn in that time. Was hoping Terrys knowledge of his game would help me ha

[Shadow Puppets]

Howe said something pretty telling today... that we don't necessarily need to lose any more players this window in order to bring them in. I guess the subtext is that we don't necessarily have to sell Miggy in order to get a new RW in, but he did say between this window and the next there would need to be player trading, in and out, to remain compliant... just not necessarily this window.

[Ikon]

4 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Howe said something pretty telling today... that we don't necessarily need to lose any more players this window in order to bring them in. I guess the subtext is that we don't necessarily have to sell Miggy in order to get a new RW in, but he did say between this window and the next there would need to be player trading, in and out, to remain compliant... just not necessarily this window.

It feels like people think we have 10 quid to spend on a RW because we might overpay a bit for Guehi. The talk from the club regarding ffp/PSR definitely has worked a treat going by the sounds of it on social media and media in general. Yes I don’t think we have ridiculous amounts available, but I think it’s more of about finding the right RW that we can attract, and that doesn’t cost 65m for example. You see lots of financial numbers here and there with people trying to figure out how much we can spend. We probably don’t have tons, obviously. However I’m pretty sure it’s very difficult to guess even closely to what we actually can/can’t spend as we don’t have all the facts. 

 

 

Edited August 16, 2024 by Ikon

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, Ikon said:

It feels like people think we have 10 quid to spend on a RW because we might overpay a bit for Guehi. The talk from the club regarding ffp/PSR definitely has worked a treat going by the sounds of it on social media and media in general. Yes I don’t think we have ridiculous amounts available, but I think it’s more of about finding the right RW that we can attract, and that doesn’t cost 65m for example. You see lots of financial numbers here and there with people trying to figure out how much we can spend. We probably don’t have tons, obviously. However I’m pretty sure it’s very difficult to guess even closely to what we actually can/can’t spend as we don’t have all the facts. 

 

 

 

 

 

Think it's pretty clear by now we are only going to bring in players who we think are capable of taking us to the next level and are happy to wait until they are available. If they become available now we can make it happen but would need to sell before next June by the sounds of it.

[BonesJones]

20 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

Homophobia apparently.

Going from a Guehi to a homophobe. Odd move by the club.

 

 

Edited August 16, 2024 by BonesJones

[Weezertron]

22 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Howe said something pretty telling today... that we don't necessarily need to lose any more players this window in order to bring them in. I guess the subtext is that we don't necessarily have to sell Miggy in order to get a new RW in, but he did say between this window and the next there would need to be player trading, in and out, to remain compliant... just not necessarily this window.

Planning to cover your PSR deficit with future sales seems naive, if that’s how I’ve read it. Who are we selling between this window and next? The dead wood we can’t already shift? Tripper and Wilson? Who will be even older by that point or out of contract? 
 

Unless he means a crown jewel or a wonderkid. 

[Shadow Puppets]

1 minute ago, Weezertron said:

Planning to cover your PSR deficit with future sales seems naive, if that’s how I’ve read it. Who are we selling between this window and next? The dead wood we can’t already shift? Tripper and Wilson? Who will be even older by that point or out of contract? 
 

Unless he means a crown jewel or a wonderkid. 

 

I guess what he's saying is there's no pressure to offload Miggy in a cut price deal in the next two weeks. Say the Guehi deal goes through AND we get a RW for £30-£40m... we could in theory lose Miggy, Lascelles and others anytime between now and the end of June next year to be compliant again, and with more commercial revenue coming in, that deficit might not be as great come June as it would appear now.

 

But what the fuck do I know 😀

[Weezertron]

1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said:

 

I guess what he's saying is there's no pressure to offload Miggy in a cut price deal in the next two weeks. Say the Guehi deal goes through AND we get a RW for £30-£40m... we could in theory lose Miggy, Lascelles and others anytime between now and the end of June next year to be compliant again, and with more commercial revenue coming in, that deficit might not be as great come June as it would appear now.

 

But what the fuck do I know 😀

That’s how I read it too, but my worry is who is buying Miggy and Lascelles between now and next year for any sort of fee? Thats not a guarantee. So when we inevitably can’t, are we OK with selling Gordon? 
 

personally I’d rather we buy what we can, and not be relying on future sales. 

[TRon]

3 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

 

I guess what he's saying is there's no pressure to offload Miggy in a cut price deal in the next two weeks. Say the Guehi deal goes through AND we get a RW for £30-£40m... we could in theory lose Miggy, Lascelles and others anytime between now and the end of June next year to be compliant again, and with more commercial revenue coming in, that deficit might not be as great come June as it would appear now.

 

But what the fuck do I know 😀

 

That makes sense anyway, and it ties in with how we are doing our recruitment. Not really sure there's a better alternative, it gives us another window to sell surplus players, and if we can't then we'll have to sell purples for a big profit. Unfortunately we can't force other clubs to buy our surplus, and we can't force them to go to clubs they don't want.

[ExiledGeordie]

5 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

 

I guess what he's saying is there's no pressure to offload Miggy in a cut price deal in the next two weeks. Say the Guehi deal goes through AND we get a RW for £30-£40m... we could in theory lose Miggy, Lascelles and others anytime between now and the end of June next year to be compliant again, and with more commercial revenue coming in, that deficit might not be as great come June as it would appear now.

 

But what the fuck do I know 😀

I think some people need to let the club run things and worry if they happen when they happen. Granted there’s an argument that they shouldn’t have got themselves into the situation re PSR at the end of June. But they don’t appear to be behaving recklessly as per Chelsea so for me I’m just happy to let things play out, I don’t get that worried about PSR ramifications with signings. 

[jack j]

Think we need to be realistic that we will need to sell one of our stars in the future like. And if @Paully gets his way then it will be gordon to Liverpool this month

 

[WilliamPS]

I wouldn’t worry about PSR sales, as before claiming a sale is needed you need to know the revenue and costs.

 

On the revenue side it would be pretty dumb to do a sale they don’t want to do now, then find at the end of the year by finishing 3rd in the league and having great cup runs has generated more TV money and prize money and the sale was never needed. Or they get another commercial deal done.