The Prophet Posted Monday at 19:09 Share Posted Monday at 19:09 (edited) 1 hour ago, Solitude20 said: Marc Guehi would be an amazing signing, but if we are splashing a 65m+ on a single player, then I’d rather we spent that money on a RW. If we can sign both, then obviously that would excellent. But I am afraid we will only be getting one of them this window. I remember all the discussions we had last season when some matches weren’t going so great, it was clear back then how RW was the area that needed reinforcements the most. Let’s look at the depths of our defense vs RW: LB: Hall Tino Kelly Burn Targett Trippier CB first half of the season: Burn Kelly Schar Krafth CB for the second half of the season: above list + Botman Jamaal RB: Trippier Tino Krafth Murphy RW: Almiron Murphy I am 100% sure our management will make the best decision for the club. But since we are on these forums to discuss and analyze, I just don’t see how the priority should be getting another CB on a record fee when RW was our weakest link last season. If we manage to sign both Guehi and a decent RW, then this post would be pointless, but I am afraid spending 65m+ means we are done with this window. Schar and Burn/Kelly would be an excellent CB combo for the first half of the season, and Krafth could be a decent emergency backup. If we really need a fifth CB for the first half of the season, why not get a cheap and a young player like what we did with Osula? Getting Guehi now means we are benching two of Burn, Schar, or Kelly. Once Botman joins, we would be benching all of them. While that’s a nice problem to have, underutilizing such great players while being restricted on PSR may not be the best thing to do, especially since our current RW setup isn’t enough to get top 4 again. A £65 million winger would be very exciting, but perhaps there's no one if that calibre available? In which case we'll go down the list or wait it out. Edited Monday at 19:32 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Monday at 19:10 Share Posted Monday at 19:10 Makes me wonder if we did have an interest in Bowen but West Ham outpriced us. If we are prepared to put 65m+ on a player, Bowen makes a lot more sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted Monday at 19:27 Share Posted Monday at 19:27 16 minutes ago, The Prophet said: A £65 million winger would br very exciting, but perhaps there's no one if that calibre available? In which case we'll go down the list or wait it out. I reckon if we offer Chelsea Targett and Jamaal Lewis in exchange for Cole Palmer they'll take it. He's not really a right winger but would be great to have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted Monday at 19:29 Share Posted Monday at 19:29 1 minute ago, relámpago blanco said: I reckon if we offer Chelsea Targett and Jamaal Lewis in exchange for Cole Palmer they'll take it. He's not really a right winger but would be great to have Good idea. Could throw Fraser and Hayden at Palace too, should be enough to get the Guehi deal done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted Monday at 19:38 Share Posted Monday at 19:38 I've wanted a new RW since day 1 but when you've scored +85 goals last season then is your RW really the biggest issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Monday at 19:40 Share Posted Monday at 19:40 Just now, Thumbheed said: I've wanted a new RW since day 1 but when you've scored +85 goals last season then is your RW really the biggest issue? Especially when we are about to start Krafth at CB and 3 of our first choice CBs are 30+. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted Monday at 19:40 Share Posted Monday at 19:40 1 minute ago, Thumbheed said: I've wanted a new RW since day 1 but when you've scored +85 goals last season then is your RW really the biggest issue? I actually agree with your point, chance creation and goals scored wasn't our problem last year. On the flip side, maybe we score 95+ with a killer at RW? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted Monday at 19:40 Share Posted Monday at 19:40 Just now, Thumbheed said: I've wanted a new RW since day 1 but when you've scored +85 goals last season then is your RW really the biggest issue? CB - RW - CF were the priority this summer 1 of 3 in so far - hopefully the other 2 to follow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted Monday at 19:40 Share Posted Monday at 19:40 53 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Is there a source for this? Almost every single source over here and in the US press quotes £20m plus or $27m. 43 minutes ago, gdm said: Every newspaper report etc says £20m and we broke our record can only take that at face value. If it’s false then fair enough 32 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: It was 24 million for Almiron I remember it being an open secret at the time and some of our journalists mentioned it in Podcasts etc but here is a recent one… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted Monday at 19:42 Share Posted Monday at 19:42 1 minute ago, STM said: Especially when we are about to start Krafth at CB and 3 of our first choice CBs are 30+. Yep. Immediately hits home just how vulnerable we are in that position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted Monday at 19:43 Share Posted Monday at 19:43 2 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: I've wanted a new RW since day 1 but when you've scored +85 goals last season then is your RW really the biggest issue? That is an over simplification. The injuries were the biggest factor last year and losing both Joes, Botman, Lascelles, Pope gutted what was once a very good defense. We need a right center back first and then a rw and I hope we get both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted Monday at 19:48 Share Posted Monday at 19:48 11 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said: I actually agree with your point, chance creation and goals scored wasn't our problem last year. On the flip side, maybe we score 95+ with a killer at RW? No arguments against that at all, but the counter point is had we conceded 10 less goals last season, wouldn't that have had a bigger impact? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted Monday at 19:50 Share Posted Monday at 19:50 15 minutes ago, Mikky said: CB - RW - CF were the priority this summer 1 of 3 in so far - hopefully the other 2 to follow I personally would like to see another CM but doesn't seem to be on the agenda this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted Monday at 19:53 Share Posted Monday at 19:53 10 minutes ago, LFEE said: I remember it being an open secret at the time and some of our journalists mentioned it in Podcasts etc but here is a recent one… Who cares anyway it was a throw away comment about Ashley breaking our transfer record. If Almiron did break it it was a disgrace it took that long. End of the day it’s no relevance to this transfer window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted Monday at 19:54 Share Posted Monday at 19:54 5 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: No arguments against that at all, but the counter point is had we conceded 10 less goals last season, wouldn't that have had a bigger impact? Yeah I don't know what was going on mid-season when we were conceding goals all over the place, really bad ones as well. 4 at home to Luton was just crazy. I think Pope was the biggest miss of all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted Monday at 19:59 Share Posted Monday at 19:59 We need both a top quality right winger and centre half. It will not be a good window if we don't bring in both. Still 12 days though, and.it's where we are at the end of the window that matters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Monday at 20:00 Share Posted Monday at 20:00 Anyone think there is a chance we don’t do any further business (incomings) ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted Monday at 20:01 Share Posted Monday at 20:01 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Anyone think there is a chance we don’t do any further business (incomings) ? Nah, but I’m becoming less convinced that we’re going to make a statement signing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted Monday at 20:11 Share Posted Monday at 20:11 (edited) Guehi and Chiesa, get it done. Pope Tino/Trips Schar/Guehi Botman/Burn Hall/Kelly Tonali/Longstaff Bruno/Miley Joelinton/Willock Chiesa/Murphy Isak/Wilson/Osula Gordon/Barnes Great depth ^^ and some interesting combinations could be had with that. Edited Monday at 20:13 by Kanji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo Posted Monday at 20:11 Share Posted Monday at 20:11 8 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Anyone think there is a chance we don’t do any further business (incomings) ? Well, you have to look at it this way. There’s a chance something might happen, but if you’re being honest with yourself, the likelihood is that there could be a chance that something just might not happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Monday at 20:13 Share Posted Monday at 20:13 2 minutes ago, Kanji said: Guehi and Chiesa, get it done. Pope Tino/Trips Schar/Guehi Botman/Burn Hall/Kelly Tonali/Longstaff Bruno/Miley Joelinton/Willock Chiesa/Murphy Isak/Wilson/Osula Gordon/Barnes Great depth ^^ and some interesting combinations could be had with that. Don’t get the obsession with Chiesa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted Monday at 20:13 Share Posted Monday at 20:13 (edited) Just now, SUPERTOON said: Don’t get the obsession with Chiesa. Would be available for a decent fee and under Eddie could really flourish. Outside of his injury he has had some shocking coaching at Juve. Edited Monday at 20:14 by Kanji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted Monday at 20:16 Share Posted Monday at 20:16 Are Chiesa's knees not knackered? Just regurgitating opinions from people who actually claim to have watched him play recently, but I was under the impression he can barely run any more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted Monday at 20:17 Share Posted Monday at 20:17 Nobody should care about Mike Ashley. It is the here and now we should care about, and if we have serious aspirations of being a Champions League level club we need better players through the door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted Monday at 20:20 Share Posted Monday at 20:20 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Andy said: Are Chiesa's knees not knackered? Just regurgitating opinions from people who actually claim to have watched him play recently, but I was under the impression he can barely run any more He played 37 times in all comps last season. 10 total goals. 3 assists. 9 of the goals were in the league. Looks like he started most of those. Edited Monday at 20:21 by Kanji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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