NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Zero]

I would prefer Guehi / a new CB over a new RW, but I am actually gambling on Trippier able to back to his normal standard. 
 

The CB / RW debate imo is in fact which one you think would decline a lot this season that you want replacement asap, Schar or Trippier.

 

Almiron and Murphy are hopeless. No discussion needed

[Dr Jinx]

2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Oh yeah, let's have more speculation base on nowt, my fave

Bit it’s not nowt.. they said the feasibility study would have been finished ages ago and they’d communicate the findings.

 

You’d have seen some inspecting on the civil engineering side if plans were any further ahead. It would have been all over social media.

 

It doesn’t look anywhere close to that.

[Sibierski]

4 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

Let’s work on the assumption that all isn’t well in the camp.

 

Whats the bigger picture? Whats happening?

 

Are PIF less interested?

I’d say it’s a case of redrawing priorities after the PSR mess. Trajectory may need tweaking and so comes with it different aims and objectives, which may sit well for some and not others.

 

Think selling squad players is proving a real challenge, and that’s having an impact. 

[TBG]

Could sign Saka for £70M.

[christ]

Wasn’t there an interview last week where they talked about the stadium situation?

[Dr Jinx]

Just now, christ said:

Wasn’t there an interview last week where they talked about the stadium situation?

unaware of it. Thread for that on its own though.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, christ said:

Wasn’t there an interview last week where they talked about the stadium situation?

Yea decision is imminent. 

[Zero]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

He was player of the season because he was class, particularly at home, but I don't think we overly relied on him due to anything other than injuries. Trippier matched his assists from RB, Bruno and Murphy weren't far behind and in terms of goals, Isak was way ahead of him and everyone. We actually got more assists from the right last season (18 vs 12) in a way making up for the difference in goals (19 from the left, 8 from the right)

You are also right. I forgot to add, our right side in trouble now as well.

 

I still remember how we played like before Trippier joined. Trippier is the first, and till now still the most transformational transfer we made during PIF era.

 

May be we should find a new hot lass for Trippier so he can leave the pain behind and focus on football again

[Kid Icarus]

Murphy isn't hopeless  We need a new RW, but a player with 3 goals and 8 assists in 26 appearances (often from the bench) last season and 5 goals in pre season this season puts him very much in the useful category.

 

The hyperbole just to ram home a point is getting a bit hysterical tbh.

[Hanshithispantz]

 

Murphy finished the season well and carried it into pre-season. I wouldn't write him off because of one shite game. He'll obviously not keep those numbers up, but between him and Miggy we're well covered for reserve wingers.

 

Gordon will likely be given a shot at RW now, which is what most people have wanted for a while. When Wilson is fit, and if Osula is ready this season, we might see more flexibility with Isak too.

 

 

 

 

[SUPERTOON]

Pre season form is completely irrelevant mind.

[Miggys First Goal]

Everything is imminent.

 

New stadium (apparently) imminent.

 

Transfers (apparently) imminent. 
 

New manager (according to some on here) imminent. 

[Dr Jinx]

2 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said:

Everything is imminent.

 

New stadium (apparently) imminent.

 

Transfers (apparently) imminent. 
 

New manager (according to some on here) imminent. 

None of it is imminent which is the problem 

[Kid Icarus]

4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Pre season form is completely irrelevant mind.

If it's contrary to a player's usual output I would agree, but if it's a continuation of existing form/output, or a sign of a player coming into the team then I think it has merit.

 

Also, it seemed pretty relevant in the Minteh thread.

 

 

Edited August 27, 2024 by Kid Icarus

[Zero]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

Murphy isn't hopeless  We need a new RW, but a player with 3 goals and 8 assists in 26 appearances (often from the bench) last season and 5 goals in pre season this season puts him very much in the useful category.

 

The hyperbole just to ram home a point is getting a bit hysterical tbh.

He and Almiron played well because of Trippier. Thats what I think people missed out most. Livra is good but in terms of attacking he isn’t Trippier level. Before last Dec Trippier is still world best RB in terms of attacking and I ain’t kidding.

 

We need a new RW if Livra is our RB. Simply as that.

[The Prophet]

15 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

Let’s work on the assumption that all isn’t well in the camp.

 

Whats the bigger picture? Whats happening?

 

Are PIF less interested?

 

Has PCP leaving created a void? Forget the negotiating, their presence in match days.. on the pitch and in the tunnel embracing the players and staff.. it bridged that gap between the coaches/management/playing staff and the suits upstairs.. there was a sense of unity and all pulling in the same direction.

 

That being gone isn’t nothing.

 

Given all that, we really needed a statement from those remaining that the plans are still in action. If PSR really is preventing us from spending again, I’d rather they came out and said that.. “we need to hold off for 6-12 months” etc.

 

The lack of news on the stadium is also something lurking in the background. Again, something that could give a lacklustre window some shade.

 

If we sign Guehi, we've spent circa £110 million this window.

 

Without selling they've maxed out again.

[Zero]

5 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

 

Murphy finished the season well and carried it into pre-season. I wouldn't write him off because of one shite game. He'll obviously not keep those numbers up, but between him and Miggy we're well covered for reserve wingers.

 

Gordon will likely be given a shot at RW now, which is what most people have wanted for a while. When Wilson is fit, and if Osula is ready this season, we might see more flexibility with Isak too.

 

 

 

 

I would say since Howe finally tried Gordon as RW, and Trippier likely to stay, a new CB has higher priority over a new RW. 

[Kid Icarus]

1 minute ago, Zero said:

He and Almiron played well because of Trippier. Thats what I think people missed out most. Livra is good but in terms of attacking he isn’t Trippier level. Before last Dec Trippier is still world best RB in terms of attacking and I ain’t kidding.

 

We need a new RW if Livra is our RB. Simply as that.

That's just not at all true though. Most of Murphy's output last season was when Trippier was out injured.

[Hanshithispantz]

6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Pre season form is completely irrelevant mind.

"Completely irrelevant" is bit over the top like. Looking sharp in pre-season and continuing where you left off is a good thing, and orobably why Howe started Murphy over Almiron.

[Dr Jinx]

Just now, The Prophet said:

 

If we sign Guehi, we've spent circa £110 million this window.

 

Without selling they've maxed out again.

That’s a big if though.. we’ve heard this transfer has been close countless times and still nothing happens.

 

I’m not bed wetting over lack of spend to be clear.. being on the wrong side of PSR or close to the limit is a shit place to be.

 

Tonali was our purple last summer and we didn’t really get to see him.. so am wondering if they’re a bit cooler about it and just wanna see exactly where the team will be when we have everyone available (which isn’t far off).

 

The outcome of the City case will also be something they are watching closely.

[SUPERTOON]

16 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

"Completely irrelevant" is bit over the top like. Looking sharp in pre-season and continuing where you left off is a good thing, and orobably why Howe started Murphy over Almiron.

Aye probably a bit unfair from me tbh. I  just think back to Anderson last pre season, couldn’t stop scoring, then back to his normal self when the season kicked off.

[ponsaelius]

Personally given the state of the market I'd have taken whatever we got offered for Almiron by Charlotte and moved for two players in the £30-35 million bracket from Europe rather than focusing entirely on Guehi. I'd have trusted Mitchell/Nixon to pick good players and for Howe to elevate them. Overall I think that would have put us in a stronger position across the squad going into the season.

 

While I don't believe the dynamic between the two is terminal I can't help but think it must be awkward. There's no way that Mitchell, who has a track record of building teams, will have wanted our entire window to be based around negotiating for a single (overpriced) UK based player.

[andycap]

I can see us getting to deadline day and palace coming out with no one will be sold now. 

And we will be knackered. 

In big games last season the quality from the right wasn't good enough and teams could deal with us very easily, that's why I believe a right winger is more important than a centreback in this window. 

For us to then basically put our full budget quota into a centreback that's been massively inflated coz he's English seems bad in our predicament where money is tight. 

 

[Shak]

43 minutes ago, christ said:

At the fee rumoured it would’ve been mental to accept it.

 

No idea why people want to flog our players like they’re getting rid of a job lot of kids toys on Facebook Marketplace. 

 

I believe the bid was 8m?

 

Selling him for that and signing a 40m player on the same wages as Almiron would essentially be a break even for the upcoming season.

 

I suspect we could have brought in someone better than him for that kind of money.

 

And yes, we'd have to pay another 8m every year for the next five seasons fit that signing in the above scenario, but we're going to have to buy someone next summer and do that anyway, with the fairly realistic chance we'll be stuck with Almiron and his even less attractive wages for a potential buyer when he's a year older.

 

In essence, we've seemingly decided to roll with Almiron for another year rather than address the RW position.

[andycap]

I do feel howe would rather keep miggy he seems to rate him. 

I don't know why mind he's basically just workrate at this part of his  career.