joeyt Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 15 minutes ago, 54 said: Funny them quotes from Mitchell, as I swear some people on here said we where really basic with our scouting setup and never searched Europe for talent. Weird. Didn't he say our scouting set up was poor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 6 minutes ago, joeyt said: Didn't he say our scouting set up was poor? If he did, it ain’t no more. Now that he has his fat finger on the pulse! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 1 hour ago, sempuki said: It had been assumed that Newcastle would be able to spend big in the winter window having failed with a £60 million bid to sign Crystal Palace centre back Marc Guehi in the summer. But having failed to move on any of their senior players and highest earners, like Kieran Trippier and Callum Wilson (who has started two games in 2024) in the summer - as well as agreeing a lucrative long term contract with Anthony Gordon - things are tighter than previously thought. A few of us were saying the existence of the Guehi bid wasn't necessarily an indicator that we had that much to spend without sales (whether in August or June) or new revenue. What Edwards says here matches any math that can be done with publicly available numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 24 minutes ago, 54 said: Funny them quotes from Mitchell, as I swear some people on here said we where really basic with our scouting setup and never searched Europe for talent. Weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 52 minutes ago, 54 said: Funny them quotes from Mitchell, as I swear some people on here said we where really basic with our scouting setup and never searched Europe for talent. Weird. I swear he said basically that himself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 Play the long game, Madueke will be available in summer for similar price. I know what I’d rather have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 2 hours ago, Dr Jinx said: This is somewhat of a coup.. let’s hope we handle his progression well. Hopefully turns out to be the next Kvaratskhelia. I’m fully on board with signings like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 2 hours ago, Dr Jinx said: This is somewhat of a coup.. let’s hope we handle his progression well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 2 hours ago, timeEd32 said: A few of us were saying the existence of the Guehi bid wasn't necessarily an indicator that we had that much to spend without sales (whether in August or June) or new revenue. What Edwards says here matches any math that can be done with publicly available numbers. So we were going to overspend on Guehi and sell one of our stars to finance the sale? That seems odd that we would be in the middle of negotiations with Palace but would need to sell if we reached an agreement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 I guess we wouldn’t have to overspend to get Guehi now, he’ll be significantly cheaper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 13 minutes ago, rebelrouser said: So we were going to overspend on Guehi and sell one of our stars to finance the sale? That seems odd that we would be in the middle of negotiations with Palace but would need to sell if we reached an agreement. We would have had to sell by next June, not immediately after signing Guehi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 Whoever has been in charge of transfer targets in the past 3 windows should sit out the next one. We need multiple signings, not one massive one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 10 minutes ago, Weezertron said: Whoever has been in charge of transfer targets in the past 3 windows should sit out the next one. We need multiple signings, not one massive one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 2 hours ago, Sibierski said: Play the long game, Madueke will be available in summer for similar price. I know what I’d rather have. Isn't he Chelsea's main RW? Think that opportunity will have passed now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 3 hours ago, timeEd32 said: A few of us were saying the existence of the Guehi bid wasn't necessarily an indicator that we had that much to spend without sales (whether in August or June) or new revenue. What Edwards says here matches any math that can be done with publicly available numbers. The article reads as though the Gordon contract extension has also eaten into our PSR cap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 3 minutes ago, KaKa said: The article reads as though the Gordon contract extension has also eaten into our PSR cap. Given he’s had a massive pay rise it’s bound to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 7 hours ago, TRon said: If we'd bought him when Brentford did. These links are so shit man, we clearly aren't going to continue buying players once their price has been inflated by proving themselves in the Premier. It would be a nice idea if we had an unlimited pot of money, but we don't. Mbuemo's stock has never been higher, same as Guehi over the summer. Such bad timing moving for these players when their fees are going to be at their very highest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 5 minutes ago, KaKa said: The article reads as though the Gordon contract extension has also eaten into our PSR cap. How much depends on if he really was on a 3.5 year deal initially and what his original wages were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: Given he’s had a massive pay rise it’s bound to? Yes, my post was badly worded. The article was saying this has further impacted our ability to spend. Hence the need to sell in the summer if we do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 (edited) The right wing position being filled this January will need some creativity. There's been talk of Chukwueze at Milan being available on loan for example, as Pulisic has locked down that right wing spot and he wants more playing time. Zhegrova at Lille is going into the last year of his contract next summer, and so maybe a reasonable fee can be negotiated there? It's going to have to be these type of situations we look for. The likes of Mbeumo seem to be a pipe dream. Edited October 29, 2024 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 4 hours ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: We have completed a deal to sign highly rated Georgian forward, Vakhtang Salia from Dinamo Tbilisi. He will officially join the club on his 18th birthday in August and will remain at Dinamo in the meantime. Welcome to Newcastle United, Vakhtang! There's doubters on here still saying we wont spend big money too - The idiots The new Haris Vukic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 2 hours ago, janpawel said: Isn't he Chelsea's main RW? Think that opportunity will have passed now Maybe they would sell us Neto. They have him subbing on the lw i think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted October 30, 2024 Share Posted October 30, 2024 3 hours ago, Shearergol said: Given he’s had a massive pay rise it’s bound to? Amortisation is over the lesser of length of a player's contract or five years. He was on a 3.5 year contract so his fee was being amortised over 3.5 years, I think extending his contract will increase that to 5 years so we will be amortising a smaller proportion of his fee each season from now on, so the wage rise could actually have a pretty neutral impact on PSR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag3.14 Posted October 30, 2024 Share Posted October 30, 2024 58 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Amortisation is over the lesser of length of a player's contract or five years. He was on a 3.5 year contract so his fee was being amortised over 3.5 years, I think extending his contract will increase that to 5 years so we will be amortising a smaller proportion of his fee each season from now on, so the wage rise could actually have a pretty neutral impact on PSR. My back of fag packet calculations have the £40m fee amortised over 3.5 years working out at ~£952k/month, so if he signed a new contract in September, we've amortised ~£19m of his fee so far. Assuming its a new 5 year contract the remainder of the fee now costs us ~£350k/month (£4.2m/year). Thats around £600k/month to play with for his improved wages so unless we've added more than £150k/week to his current salary, we're in no worse position than we were before financially Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted October 30, 2024 Share Posted October 30, 2024 Surely Mitchel must have come contacts for players on the continent in the 30m range. Other clubs do it, we’ve done it before. Mbuemo would be a great signing in one sense but he’d cost an absolute fortune in January ffs I can’t believe that things are so tight again that if we buy anyone in Jan we “have” to sell in the summer. Are things that bad? Mind clearling Wilson out and the rest of the deadwood is desperately needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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