NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Yorkie]

[Mikky]

100% no to Tavernier

 

FWIW - I would love to sign an inverted winger on the right - sort of in the mould of Kubo and Roony - just gives you that bit of creativity.

 

Kubo fits that mould so well and is someone that the likes of Isak will benefit from.

[Mike]

33 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

 

I'd be somewhat ok with this if he'd ever actually been replaced.

[The College Dropout]

55 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Depends who's perspective you are looking from. A manager will want the best players right now, so you get Eddie willing to pay a premium for PL proven players. His job is on the line depending on results, he's not got time to take a year developing great prospects.

 

But the owners will be conscious that paying big money and wages only pays off with success. If we don't get Europe then those same players lose value every year, and your top assets start getting itchy feet.

The ownership sets the targets not the manager. If Howe had a mandate to challenge of Europe but happy with top 8 but he had to develop players. He would be happy to do that, that’s what he largely did at Bournemouth.  
 

IMO he’s pushing for certified players because his job is to over perform and qualify for Europe.  Based on that - don’t give me teenagers, limit the foreigners, keep all my experiences older players.  

[Izakaya]

Tavernier 😂

 

Can Eddie just have Bournemouth wiped from his memory please? I'm embarrassed for him at this point. 

[Yorkie]

37 minutes ago, Izakaya said:

Tavernier 😂

 

Can Eddie just have Bournemouth wiped from his memory please? I'm embarrassed for him at this point. 

 

He's signed one (out of 18, by my count) first team player from Bournemouth, on a free. 

[Scoot]

44 minutes ago, Izakaya said:

Tavernier 😂

 

Can Eddie just have Bournemouth wiped from his memory please? I'm embarrassed for him at this point. 

 

Why? What's he done?

[Dr.Spaceman]

Signed Lloyd Kelly

[Kanj]

I don’t want to be Brentford or Brighton. I assume most dont want it either. Our owners don’t want that either.  I don’t want to be a team who signs a million regens and funds more regens to sell off. And when life is good keep selling off. When the fans clap off a 7th or 15th season the same. When the manager is made to be poached. Good biz model. Not my pref. 
 

I do not give a single fuck about the fee or wages. I want the players to perform. If they do the rest will work itself out. On pitch success will help yield the business returns. 

 

6 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

Then we must also stop partaking in £50m+ signings and £100k+ wages. 

And no, it’s not that. It has never been about that. It’s still a revenue issue. And it’s beyond our control now. Should we sell better yes. But this whole notion of selling of selling isak to fund a squad rebuild is so fucking insane to me. It’s so easier said than done. Everyone here arm chairing player trading. It’s an issue for every club. People tend to trade their youth or middling middle ground players who they either acquired for cheap or free. Big money signings don’t generally get big money moves becuase they are pins for the growth of the internal ambitions.
 

Coutinho at 8.5m to Liverpool to what he left for was once in generation stuff. Caciedo same. Enzo same. 

 

 

Edited Thursday at 22:53 by Kanj

[Kanj]

1 hour ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

Signed Lloyd Kelly

probably because Botman, lascelles were hurt and needed a free CB. Lloyd playing awful corner coverage worse than Laurent Charvet wasn’t in anyone’s consideration there. 

[Lush Vlad]

2 hours ago, Scoot said:

 

Why? What's he done?

Got linked with a Bournemouth player by..*checks notes…. Kurt Leyland from Newcastle World. 
 

I’m embarrassed for him, too. 

[jack j]

A Bournemouth player who wasn't even close to being there at the same time as him either.

Some people are fucking stupid

[Kanj]

I’m sure both Mitchell and Howe don’t want Marcus. 

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, Kanj said:

I don’t want to be Brentford or Brighton. I assume most dont want it either. Our owners don’t want that either.  I don’t want to be a team who signs a million regens and funds more regens to sell off. And when life is good keep selling off. When the fans clap off a 7th or 15th season the same. When the manager is made to be poached. Good biz model. Not my pref. 
 

I do not give a single fuck about the fee or wages. I want the players to perform. If they do the rest will work itself out. On pitch success will help yield the business returns. 

 

And no, it’s not that. It has never been about that. It’s still a revenue issue. And it’s beyond our control now. Should we sell better yes. But this whole notion of selling of selling isak to fund a squad rebuild is so fucking insane to me. It’s so easier said than done. Everyone here arm chairing player trading. It’s an issue for every club. People tend to trade their youth or middling middle ground players who they either acquired for cheap or free. Big money signings don’t generally get big money moves becuase they are pins for the growth of the internal ambitions.
 

Coutinho at 8.5m to Liverpool to what he left for was once in generation stuff. Caciedo same. Enzo same. 

 

 

 

You’re living in cloud cuckoo land. 
 

as the rules stand we can’t bridge the revenue gap to Spurs. We are £150m short of Spurs every year.  The only way to catch them is to outperform them in the transfer market, coaching, academy etc. we ain’t going to do that signing Guehi for £60m, Tonali for £50m, Barnes for 40m.  
 

Our spend on fees and wages is why we couldn’t sign any meaningful players in the summer.  If we keep up this approach we’ll be forced to sell our best players in June.  
 

Unless the rules change we need to beat the market.  Thats what Brighton do. Thats what Liverpool did. That’s what spurs did 20 years ago when they went out and bought Carrick and Defoe and we signed Nicky Butt. They then signed bale Berbatov and Modric. 

[Kanj]

15 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

You’re living in cloud cuckoo land. 
 

as the rules stand we can’t bridge the revenue gap to Spurs. We are £150m short of Spurs every year.  The only way to catch them is to outperform them in the transfer market, coaching, academy etc. we ain’t going to do that signing Guehi for £60m, Tonali for £50m, Barnes for 40m.  
 

Our spend on fees and wages is why we couldn’t sign any meaningful players in the summer.  If we keep up this approach we’ll be forced to sell our best players in June.  
 

Unless the rules change we need to beat the market.  Thats what Brighton do. Thats what Liverpool did. That’s what spurs did 20 years ago when they went out and bought Carrick and Defoe and we signed Nicky Butt. They then signed bale Berbatov and Modric. 

I’m not living in cloud cuckoo land. The commercial income thing doesn’t have to be all related party though. So that’s a knock I always have had with current corporate team. and like I’ve said before and you ignored, we’re really not in a sellers market anymore given the cost of debt and capital. It’s why all these fees have died off unless you’re a sovereign, o wait. 

[Kanj]

But I take your points mate, I really do and I get it. Just a weird and shit situation we are in and it sucks. Really is anti competitive and not fun. 

[r0cafella]

7 minutes ago, Kanj said:

I’m not living in cloud cuckoo land. The commercial income thing doesn’t have to be all related party though. So that’s a knock I always have had with current corporate team. and like I’ve said before and you ignored, we’re really not in a sellers market anymore given the cost of debt and capital. It’s why all these fees have died off unless you’re a sovereign, o wait. 

Im not keen on TCD Language here it's inflammatory without cause. That being said I do agree with the nature of his point. 

 

The reason why related party deals are so important to us is it's our only realistic way of closing the gap to the likes of spurs. Unfortunately whilst we were being tortured by Ashley the rest of the league were investing in marketing and creating a global fan base, this factor makes them a lot more appealing commercial partners than we are. 

 

As I've often repeated, why would I sponsor us when I can sponsor Liverpool for the same cost. Sponsoring Liverpool gives my brand ALOT more eyeballs. 

 

This is precisely why the PL and the so called members fought so hard to pass APT rules because they know all of this. 

[Scoot]

7 hours ago, Lush Vlad said:

Got linked with a Bournemouth player by..*checks notes…. Kurt Leyland from Newcastle World. 
 

I’m embarrassed for him, too. 

 

Howe Out!

[KingArthur]

17 hours ago, Sibierski said:

They’re rating him against Allison though, and he’s clearly not that level.

 

For the price point Kelleher will be sold at, he’s very good for a long term goalkeeper. Trafford / Ramsdale figures and I’d have neither close to Kelleher.

I think his price will be around 25-30 million. Liverpool have no need to sale him for cheap.

 

And to be fair, did he have something to do against Real Madrid for example? Yea he saved a penalty, which was piss poor and saving penalties it something that I would consider important ability for our keeper. This just sounds to me like a player who has a short decent spell in a great team, and suddenly he is a world beater.

I think he is a decent keeper, but for long term? Rather someone else for me. But if we end up with him, I accept that, we could do a lot worse. And not the first time I am wrong if he ends up great.

[Fezzle]

11 hours ago, Scoot said:

 

Why? What's he done?

Love it when people read tabloid bullshit and take it to extreme levels of stupid. 

[Sibierski]

13 hours ago, Yorkie said:

Can't say I've noticed Tavernier but I don't think it hurts to have players like this in your squad:

 

 

Sorta signing I could get behind if the farcical rules weren't so stringent. 

Fine squad player, if picking up on a free / <£10m, and it provides short term squad depth.

 

But we’re not in that position. We need specialities in positions and / or youth with potential growth, giving the limited resources we have to spend. 
 

Likes of Tavernier are academy players we should be seeing more of come end of decade, who take on those roles.

[ExiledGeordie]

Tavernier, do me a favour 😂

[TRon]

15 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

The ownership sets the targets not the manager. If Howe had a mandate to challenge of Europe but happy with top 8 but he had to develop players. He would be happy to do that, that’s what he largely did at Bournemouth.  
 

IMO he’s pushing for certified players because his job is to over perform and qualify for Europe.  Based on that - don’t give me teenagers, limit the foreigners, keep all my experiences older players.  

 

Yes, that's what I said basically, I think that's why there will be some friction with Mitchell and Howe, it's inevitable when the owners are setting expectations of Europe and want to increase PSR headroom at the same time. Howe believes he needs good quality PL ready players to deliver, but that model doesn't leave any margin for failure. Don't qualify for Europe and you are basically forced to sell players as happened this summer.

[JEToon]

The harsh reality is we are going to be linked with players like Tavernier, likely sign players like that, this is the issue we are going to face and the league wants us to face, we are going to need to both find and sign cheap effective proven players for the league, young talent who will improve and absolute nailed on quality.

 

It’s a bit wild to bemoan our policy of overspending and then be irked by us being linked to players we perceive to be undervalued and a fee of 10 million for him would be the kind of undervalued market we likely will look at even if nothing ever comes of his name being linked

[AyeDubbleYoo]

12 hours ago, r0cafella said:

Im not keen on TCD Language here it's inflammatory without cause. That being said I do agree with the nature of his point. 

 

The reason why related party deals are so important to us is it's our only realistic way of closing the gap to the likes of spurs. Unfortunately whilst we were being tortured by Ashley the rest of the league were investing in marketing and creating a global fan base, this factor makes them a lot more appealing commercial partners than we are. 

 

As I've often repeated, why would I sponsor us when I can sponsor Liverpool for the same cost. Sponsoring Liverpool gives my brand ALOT more eyeballs. 

 

This is precisely why the PL and the so called members fought so hard to pass APT rules because they know all of this. 

But couldn’t you sponsor us for, say, 15% less than Liverpool? 
 

I get the problems with the rules but I also think we need to push every avenue to the max. 

 

 

Edited Friday at 13:10 by AyeDubbleYoo