NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Lush Vlad]

14 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

I don't think Kelleher is good enough. Liverpool fans didn't rate him much before this short spell.

 

Is that right?  I know plenty of Liverpool fans (who doesn't) and they've always said he's done really well when called upon.

 

There was one spell where he had a couple of howlers close together that may have skewed opinion, from memory.  But all keepers make howlers.  Alisson is the best around, I think and even he has made some ricks the last couple of years. 

[TRon]

1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

For Wilson and Miggy this was definitely the case. The principle is sound but it’s very close to ‘sell your best players’ so it’s hard to be too critical when we don’t do it. 

 

Ultimately this is what staff at the club responsible for squad building will be held accountable for though, whether that's Staveley, Howe or Mitchell.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

2 hours ago, Kanj said:

Easier said than done to time the market like that 

Definitely, especially when you’re also trying to go from battling relegation to qualifying for the CL at the same time. 

[TRC]

1 hour ago, Sempiternal said:

I’d have him over Raya and Sanchez and Onana 100 percent. He’s also 26 so he’s not close to peaking 

He's played 21 career league games. I dont think we can fully judge him.

[Kanj]

Apart from Brighton and Benfica capitalizing on Chelsea dropping insane fees for players, clubs don’t generally just flip their best player these days if they have aspirations to move up the table and keep building. Sure Liverpool did it yonks ago but they sold those players at insane prices when those respective buyers were dropping silly fees. Again, those buyers are anomalies and not normal each window. It’s far different now the PSR world. 
 

and I’m speaking about this from the POV from my career (applying my M&A exp) as well so those of you who do know me in real life should at least understand where I’m coming from in this analysis. 

[The College Dropout]

2 minutes ago, Kanj said:

Apart from Brighton and Benfica capitalizing on Chelsea dropping insane fees for players, clubs don’t generally just flip their best player these days if they have aspirations to move up the table and keep building. Sure Liverpool did it yonks ago but they sold those players at insane prices when those respective buyers were dropping silly fees. Again, those buyers are anomalies and not normal each window. It’s far different now the PSR world. 
 

and I’m speaking about this from the POV from my career (applying my M&A exp) as well so those of you who do know me in real life should at least understand where I’m coming from in this analysis. 

Then we must also stop partaking in £50m+ signings and £100k+ wages. 

[wyn davies]

5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Then we must also stop partaking in £50m+ signings and £100k+ wages. 

Which means do we wish to be a Brighton/ Brentford or Man City / Liverpool 

[The College Dropout]

3 minutes ago, wyn davies said:

Which means do we wish to be a Brighton/ Brentford or Man City / Liverpool 

We are neither. 
 

We can spend significantly more than Brentford/Brighton. And significantly less than Man City/Liverpool. 

We must force the revenues up.  

[Sima]

Buzzing that we’re after a winger from Bournemouth. 

 

Tavernier  

[Yorkie]

Can't say I've noticed Tavernier but I don't think it hurts to have players like this in your squad:

 

 

Sorta signing I could get behind if the farcical rules weren't so stringent. 

[joeyt]

 

[TRon]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

Then we must also stop partaking in £50m+ signings and £100k+ wages. 

 

Depends who's perspective you are looking from. A manager will want the best players right now, so you get Eddie willing to pay a premium for PL proven players. His job is on the line depending on results, he's not got time to take a year developing great prospects.

 

But the owners will be conscious that paying big money and wages only pays off with success. If we don't get Europe then those same players lose value every year, and your top assets start getting itchy feet.

[Sima]

12 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

Can't say I've noticed Tavernier but I don't think it hurts to have players like this in your squad:

 

 

Sorta signing I could get behind if the farcical rules weren't so stringent. 

Can you put up Almiron’s for comparison.

 

Tavernier is absolute fucking gunk.

[Yorkie]

[Mikky]

100% no to Tavernier

 

FWIW - I would love to sign an inverted winger on the right - sort of in the mould of Kubo and Roony - just gives you that bit of creativity.

 

Kubo fits that mould so well and is someone that the likes of Isak will benefit from.

[Mike]

33 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

 

I'd be somewhat ok with this if he'd ever actually been replaced.

[The College Dropout]

55 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Depends who's perspective you are looking from. A manager will want the best players right now, so you get Eddie willing to pay a premium for PL proven players. His job is on the line depending on results, he's not got time to take a year developing great prospects.

 

But the owners will be conscious that paying big money and wages only pays off with success. If we don't get Europe then those same players lose value every year, and your top assets start getting itchy feet.

The ownership sets the targets not the manager. If Howe had a mandate to challenge of Europe but happy with top 8 but he had to develop players. He would be happy to do that, that’s what he largely did at Bournemouth.  
 

IMO he’s pushing for certified players because his job is to over perform and qualify for Europe.  Based on that - don’t give me teenagers, limit the foreigners, keep all my experiences older players.  

[Izakaya]

Tavernier 😂

 

Can Eddie just have Bournemouth wiped from his memory please? I'm embarrassed for him at this point. 

[Yorkie]

37 minutes ago, Izakaya said:

Tavernier 😂

 

Can Eddie just have Bournemouth wiped from his memory please? I'm embarrassed for him at this point. 

 

He's signed one (out of 18, by my count) first team player from Bournemouth, on a free. 

[Scoot]

44 minutes ago, Izakaya said:

Tavernier 😂

 

Can Eddie just have Bournemouth wiped from his memory please? I'm embarrassed for him at this point. 

 

Why? What's he done?

[Dr.Spaceman]

Signed Lloyd Kelly

[Kanj]

I don’t want to be Brentford or Brighton. I assume most dont want it either. Our owners don’t want that either.  I don’t want to be a team who signs a million regens and funds more regens to sell off. And when life is good keep selling off. When the fans clap off a 7th or 15th season the same. When the manager is made to be poached. Good biz model. Not my pref. 
 

I do not give a single fuck about the fee or wages. I want the players to perform. If they do the rest will work itself out. On pitch success will help yield the business returns. 

 

6 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

Then we must also stop partaking in £50m+ signings and £100k+ wages. 

And no, it’s not that. It has never been about that. It’s still a revenue issue. And it’s beyond our control now. Should we sell better yes. But this whole notion of selling of selling isak to fund a squad rebuild is so fucking insane to me. It’s so easier said than done. Everyone here arm chairing player trading. It’s an issue for every club. People tend to trade their youth or middling middle ground players who they either acquired for cheap or free. Big money signings don’t generally get big money moves becuase they are pins for the growth of the internal ambitions.
 

Coutinho at 8.5m to Liverpool to what he left for was once in generation stuff. Caciedo same. Enzo same. 

 

 

Edited November 28, 2024 by Kanj

[Kanj]

1 hour ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

Signed Lloyd Kelly

probably because Botman, lascelles were hurt and needed a free CB. Lloyd playing awful corner coverage worse than Laurent Charvet wasn’t in anyone’s consideration there. 

[Lush Vlad]

2 hours ago, Scoot said:

 

Why? What's he done?

Got linked with a Bournemouth player by..*checks notes…. Kurt Leyland from Newcastle World. 
 

I’m embarrassed for him, too. 

[jack j]

A Bournemouth player who wasn't even close to being there at the same time as him either.

Some people are fucking stupid