NUFC Transfer Rumours

[ExiledGeordie]

  On 01/12/2024 at 13:47, SUPERTOON said:

We haven’t got any powder to keep dry.

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[Geordie Ahmed]

An ineffective left winger? Sure, that's exactly what we are crying out for 

[Joelinton7]

Fichajes also said we were signing Sergio Ramos the other week. 

[TRon]

  On 01/12/2024 at 13:45, Jewel said:

I wouldn’t be too upset if we don’t sign anyone in the January window.

 

keep our powder dry and go again properly in the summer.

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I think it's probably fair to say that any future signings whether January or the summer will be Mitchell-led. Can't see Howe being given carte blanche like he was previously unless we know for sure he's here long term.

[Izakaya]

  On 01/12/2024 at 22:58, TRon said:

 

 

I think it's probably fair to say that any future signings whether January or the summer will be Mitchell-led. Can't see Howe being given carte blanche like he was previously unless we know for sure he's here long term.

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Feel the same. 

 

If we do get players in Jan it'll be under Mitchell's choice. Eddie won't have any input. 

 

Maybe even said to Eddie, you're getting X signings and Y players are being sold. Get on with it or you can leave at the end of the season. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

  On 01/12/2024 at 23:47, Izakaya said:

 

Feel the same. 

 

If we do get players in Jan it'll be under Mitchell's choice. Eddie won't have any input. 

 

Maybe even said to Eddie, you're getting X signings and Y players are being sold. Get on with it or you can leave at the end of the season. 

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Well that would be stupid. 

[McDog]

  On 01/12/2024 at 23:55, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Well that would be stupid. 

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I agree. I highly doubt Mitchell would ignore the manager's wishes completely. That said, his remit is to run the transfers so if agreement isn't made with the gaffer, he wins the tiebreaker.

[KaKa]

  On 01/12/2024 at 23:47, Izakaya said:

 

Feel the same. 

 

If we do get players in Jan it'll be under Mitchell's choice. Eddie won't have any input. 

 

Maybe even said to Eddie, you're getting X signings and Y players are being sold. Get on with it or you can leave at the end of the season. 

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Mitchell had already said this is not how things will work.

 

However, he does need to offer more of a framework around how the squad needs to be improved on. With specific positions and roles in mind.

 

He also needs to provide a wider array of players for each of these positions and roles for the manager to then select from. These players need to be at the right fee and wages to allow us to continue to build at a reasonable rate without doing us in completely PSR wise.

 

If we go with this sort of approach we'll be just fine, as it's what we should have been doing in the first place.

[Geordie Ahmed]

There's not a chance the club will sign players without the final say from Howe, they may as well sack him if they do that

 

Howe will have final say and rightly so but much like Klopp listened to Edwards when it came to the signing of Salah then Howe needs to do the same 

 

As it happens I don't think we'll do much in January and if the reason for that is it allows us to have a bigger summer then I'm all for it 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Need to avoid a ‘final say’ at all really. 

[SteV]

  On 01/12/2024 at 23:47, Izakaya said:

 

Feel the same. 

 

If we do get players in Jan it'll be under Mitchell's choice. Eddie won't have any input. 

 

Maybe even said to Eddie, you're getting X signings and Y players are being sold. Get on with it or you can leave at the end of the season. 

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If that happened Eddie would resign, and rightly so. But there’s absolutely no chance of it happening, so we’re alright.

[black_n_white]

Fell the side needs a spark of something new in the attacking third and maybe a new right winger might bring that? Hopefully the plan is to ship out almiron and bring in a replacement. 

[nufcjmc]

  On 02/12/2024 at 08:27, black_n_white said:

Fell the side needs a spark of something new in the attacking third and maybe a new right winger might bring that? Hopefully the plan is to ship out almiron and bring in a replacement. 

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Possibly would as Tino seems to be good at driving up the pitch and then goes backwards and is reluctant to cross. If we have a creative right winger then that stops playing people out of position on the right and stops Tino having to be that creative force he doesn't appear to be. If we have a valid threat on the right it also means we can fully utilise both wing play and stops us being easy to mark as it wouldn't all be coming from one side. 

 

Obviously asking alot of the right winger but we have been desperate for something different and think that does that. 

 

The short term alternative is Trips comes in for more games which if he does want away then I guess that isn't an option.

[mighty__mag]

Just prepare for nothing, it's already rumoured we'll be doing nowt incomingwise 

[Geordie Ahmed]

  On 02/12/2024 at 08:24, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Need to avoid a ‘final say’ at all really. 

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Don't think you can, not sure any of the clubs operate that way (except maybe Real Madrid where Perez just signs who he wants)

 

Even Klopp with the Salah scenario, although it wasn't his preferred choice he listened to what the data people were saying and agreed to it

 

Any other way is problematic

[nufcjmc]

  On 02/12/2024 at 08:58, mighty__mag said:

Just prepare for nothing, it's already rumoured we'll be doing nowt incomingwise 

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Sell to buy is the other line coming out so trips and miggy go there may be some wiggle room for a signing if we don't peddle someone then it's loans/youth or no one.

[Mikky]

  On 02/12/2024 at 00:55, Geordie Ahmed said:

There's not a chance the club will sign players without the final say from Howe, they may as well sack him if they do that

 

Howe will have final say and rightly so but much like Klopp listened to Edwards when it came to the signing of Salah then Howe needs to do the same 

 

As it happens I don't think we'll do much in January and if the reason for that is it allows us to have a bigger summer then I'm all for it 

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In reality the way this should work is that they should be identifying positions - CB/RW (likely departures of Wilson/Miggy/Tripps) - scout the players - recommend the CB/RW to Howe from the list - get his viewpoint - then collectively reach a decision - that’s how the sporting model should work - it should continue with or without Howe, so the next manager isn’t saturated with Howe signings (bit like Man U with Ten Haag) - you work with the clubs project 

[Sima]

Richest club in the world supposedly and if we do nothing in January we'll have barely spent anything for three transfer windows.

Fuck PSR.

 

 

Edited December 2, 2024 by Sima

[Geordie Ahmed]

  On 02/12/2024 at 09:07, Mikky said:

In reality the way this should work is that they should be identifying positions - CB/RW (likely departures of Wilson/Miggy/Tripps) - scout the players - recommend the CB/RW to Howe from the list - get his viewpoint - then collectively reach a decision - that’s how the sporting model should work - it should continue with or without Howe, so the next manager isn’t saturated with Howe signings (bit like Man U with Ten Haag) - you work with the clubs project 

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I agree with this but the only aspect I think that is crucial is if Howe prefers player X from the list whilst Mitchell prefers player Y then it should be Howe with that final say and I think that is how it works

 

I just think the suggestion from some that Howe have next to no involvement is absurd and not likely to ever happen, be that with Howe or whoever the next manager is (That's not me wanting Howe out btw, there will at some point be a next manager)

[TRon]

  On 02/12/2024 at 00:55, Geordie Ahmed said:

There's not a chance the club will sign players without the final say from Howe, they may as well sack him if they do that

 

Howe will have final say and rightly so but much like Klopp listened to Edwards when it came to the signing of Salah then Howe needs to do the same 

 

As it happens I don't think we'll do much in January and if the reason for that is it allows us to have a bigger summer then I'm all for it 

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It could be a repeat of this summer then. If Howe gets the sign off, and he decides only a proven player will improve his side, then we don't sign anyone other than another Osula type or young hopeful for the future. Then he'll need to get us to Europe with the players we have.

[Mikky]

  On 02/12/2024 at 09:16, Geordie Ahmed said:

 

I agree with this but the only aspect I think that is crucial is if Howe prefers player X from the list whilst Mitchell prefers player Y then it should be Howe with that final say and I think that is how it works

 

I just think the suggestion from some that Howe have next to no involvement is absurd and not likely to ever happen, be that with Howe or whoever the next manager is (That's not me wanting Howe out btw, there will at some point be a next manager)

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That’s fair enough and was sort of the point I was trying to make - the club drives the scouting - sit down with Howe and work with him from that list - who is on the list shouldn’t involve Howe but ensure that he gets all the information he needs

[Bunk Moreland]

 

[loki679]

  On 01/12/2024 at 21:33, Geordie Ahmed said:

An ineffective left winger? Sure, that's exactly what we are crying out for 

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Imagine if we signed another left winger

 

Chuck another goalkeeper in while we're at it.

[The College Dropout]

  On 02/12/2024 at 09:02, Geordie Ahmed said:

Don't think you can, not sure any of the clubs operate that way (except maybe Real Madrid where Perez just signs who he wants)

 

Even Klopp with the Salah scenario, although it wasn't his preferred choice he listened to what the data people were saying and agreed to it

 

Any other way is problematic

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Chelsea have alaways operated like that. Managers have input but a lot of the action was dictated by the club/Roman. 
 

Spurs are also largely run like that.  A fair number of signings are happening no matter what. 
 

Similar in Europe. 
 

Thats why owners want coaches like Slot, Maresca And Ange. They’ll use and be happy with the players bought for them.  Someone like Conte only uses who he wants. Liverpool didn’t sign the CM they’ve needed for years, not a peep of discontent in the media from Slot. Their owners are also fairly happy for them to finish level with the investment. 

[SUPERTOON]

  On 02/12/2024 at 14:50, Bunk Moreland said:

 

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They signed him for 100k in the summer apparently.