nufcjmc Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 5 minutes ago, black_n_white said: Fell the side needs a spark of something new in the attacking third and maybe a new right winger might bring that? Hopefully the plan is to ship out almiron and bring in a replacement. Possibly would as Tino seems to be good at driving up the pitch and then goes backwards and is reluctant to cross. If we have a creative right winger then that stops playing people out of position on the right and stops Tino having to be that creative force he doesn't appear to be. If we have a valid threat on the right it also means we can fully utilise both wing play and stops us being easy to mark as it wouldn't all be coming from one side. Obviously asking alot of the right winger but we have been desperate for something different and think that does that. The short term alternative is Trips comes in for more games which if he does want away then I guess that isn't an option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 Just prepare for nothing, it's already rumoured we'll be doing nowt incomingwise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 36 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Need to avoid a ‘final say’ at all really. Don't think you can, not sure any of the clubs operate that way (except maybe Real Madrid where Perez just signs who he wants) Even Klopp with the Salah scenario, although it wasn't his preferred choice he listened to what the data people were saying and agreed to it Any other way is problematic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 2 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: Just prepare for nothing, it's already rumoured we'll be doing nowt incomingwise Sell to buy is the other line coming out so trips and miggy go there may be some wiggle room for a signing if we don't peddle someone then it's loans/youth or no one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 8 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: There's not a chance the club will sign players without the final say from Howe, they may as well sack him if they do that Howe will have final say and rightly so but much like Klopp listened to Edwards when it came to the signing of Salah then Howe needs to do the same As it happens I don't think we'll do much in January and if the reason for that is it allows us to have a bigger summer then I'm all for it In reality the way this should work is that they should be identifying positions - CB/RW (likely departures of Wilson/Miggy/Tripps) - scout the players - recommend the CB/RW to Howe from the list - get his viewpoint - then collectively reach a decision - that’s how the sporting model should work - it should continue with or without Howe, so the next manager isn’t saturated with Howe signings (bit like Man U with Ten Haag) - you work with the clubs project Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 (edited) Richest club in the world supposedly and if we do nothing in January we'll have barely spent anything for three transfer windows. Fuck PSR. Edited December 2, 2024 by Sima Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 6 minutes ago, Mikky said: In reality the way this should work is that they should be identifying positions - CB/RW (likely departures of Wilson/Miggy/Tripps) - scout the players - recommend the CB/RW to Howe from the list - get his viewpoint - then collectively reach a decision - that’s how the sporting model should work - it should continue with or without Howe, so the next manager isn’t saturated with Howe signings (bit like Man U with Ten Haag) - you work with the clubs project I agree with this but the only aspect I think that is crucial is if Howe prefers player X from the list whilst Mitchell prefers player Y then it should be Howe with that final say and I think that is how it works I just think the suggestion from some that Howe have next to no involvement is absurd and not likely to ever happen, be that with Howe or whoever the next manager is (That's not me wanting Howe out btw, there will at some point be a next manager) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 8 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: There's not a chance the club will sign players without the final say from Howe, they may as well sack him if they do that Howe will have final say and rightly so but much like Klopp listened to Edwards when it came to the signing of Salah then Howe needs to do the same As it happens I don't think we'll do much in January and if the reason for that is it allows us to have a bigger summer then I'm all for it It could be a repeat of this summer then. If Howe gets the sign off, and he decides only a proven player will improve his side, then we don't sign anyone other than another Osula type or young hopeful for the future. Then he'll need to get us to Europe with the players we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 24 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: I agree with this but the only aspect I think that is crucial is if Howe prefers player X from the list whilst Mitchell prefers player Y then it should be Howe with that final say and I think that is how it works I just think the suggestion from some that Howe have next to no involvement is absurd and not likely to ever happen, be that with Howe or whoever the next manager is (That's not me wanting Howe out btw, there will at some point be a next manager) That’s fair enough and was sort of the point I was trying to make - the club drives the scouting - sit down with Howe and work with him from that list - who is on the list shouldn’t involve Howe but ensure that he gets all the information he needs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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loki679 Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 17 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: An ineffective left winger? Sure, that's exactly what we are crying out for Imagine if we signed another left winger Chuck another goalkeeper in while we're at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 6 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Don't think you can, not sure any of the clubs operate that way (except maybe Real Madrid where Perez just signs who he wants) Even Klopp with the Salah scenario, although it wasn't his preferred choice he listened to what the data people were saying and agreed to it Any other way is problematic Chelsea have alaways operated like that. Managers have input but a lot of the action was dictated by the club/Roman. Spurs are also largely run like that. A fair number of signings are happening no matter what. Similar in Europe. Thats why owners want coaches like Slot, Maresca And Ange. They’ll use and be happy with the players bought for them. Someone like Conte only uses who he wants. Liverpool didn’t sign the CM they’ve needed for years, not a peep of discontent in the media from Slot. Their owners are also fairly happy for them to finish level with the investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 26 minutes ago, Bunk Moreland said: They signed him for 100k in the summer apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 32 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: They signed him for 100k in the summer apparently. Correct. A giant who can play lcb or rcb and can develop behind Schär. I feel like RW would be a better winter signing than RCB though. Having more than one option for a transfer and looking beyond the EPL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 Is he good the Lens player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 18 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Is he good the Lens player? Suffers a bit of vignetting when he goes very wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 Depends on which way you look at him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 1 hour ago, nufc123 said: Is he good the Lens player? I haven't watched him but seems to be sound defending but not passing. He is only 20. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 Pretty big news has been circulating about Tomori recently. Apparently he's ready to return to the Prem, having fallen out of favour at Milan. They are willing to let him leave in January. The rumoured fee Milan are looking for is shockingly decent at 30 million Euros and his current salary will be easy for us to improve upon at around 80k a week. https://sempremilan.com/tomori-milan-newcastle-juventus-west-ham-villa If all that information is true. The deal is almost too good to pass on. Similar sort of profile to Guehi who we targeted in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 6 minutes ago, KaKa said: Pretty big news has been circulating about Tomori recently. Apparently he's ready to return to the Prem, having fallen out of favour at Milan. They are willing to let him leave in January. The rumoured fee Milan are looking for is shockingly decent at 30 million Euros and his current salary will be easy for us to improve upon at around 80k a week. https://sempremilan.com/tomori-milan-newcastle-juventus-west-ham-villa If all that information is true. The deal is almost too good to pass on. Similar sort of profile to Guehi who we targeted in the summer. Guess it would depend if turning 27 in the next few weeks would take him out of consideration we have no idea if Mitchell will seek to bring the age profile down and target under 23s or if its deal specific. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 2, 2024 Share Posted December 2, 2024 14 minutes ago, nufcjmc said: Guess it would depend if turning 27 in the next few weeks would take him out of consideration we have no idea if Mitchell will seek to bring the age profile down and target under 23s or if its deal specific. It's a good point. We did look at Tosin who is 27 this year too, but he was on a free and that was also prior to Mitchell. I think for the reasonable fee and wages and for his title winning experience in Italy, champions league experience, previous Prem experience and much needed speed in the backline, I would do it personally. Especially because I think he goes straight into the first team to partner Botman, as Schar is starting to drop off and looks more of a backup going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted December 4, 2024 Share Posted December 4, 2024 Quote Nico Wiliams This would be a remarkable signing, but Newcastle United have the ability to bring Spanish sensation Nico Williams to the Premier League next summer. The Athletic Bilbao star has a release clause of around £46 and, according to the Athletic, would be open to the Premier League move. Now of course that means several other sides will also be interested, with Liverpool potentially looking for a Mo Salah replacement for starters. Chronicle Live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 4, 2024 Share Posted December 4, 2024 Yeah… Get him and Lamal too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted December 4, 2024 Share Posted December 4, 2024 50 minutes ago, rebelrouser said: Chronicle Live A ban please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted December 4, 2024 Share Posted December 4, 2024 Quote The Athletic Bilbao star has a release clause of around £46 and... I've got this one lads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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