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r0cafella

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2 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Rogers plays just behind Watkins. None of those others are really left wingers, and none have had close to the production Barnes has had down that side.

 

I think you underestimate what Barnes has been able to contribute in goals and assists in the Premier league, even when he was at Leicester.

 

If we make him available we'll see. I'm certain there will be interest. Perhaps some of the clubs even battling to stay up would see him as a big signing that gets them over the line.

 

Time will tell.

I just think hes a really expensive option for a mid table side and his all around game isn't quite good enough for the top sides. 

 

No doubt about his record, I rate him as well just think his price plus wages and limitations make him a tricky proposition. 

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KaKa

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1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

I just think hes a really expensive option for a mid table side and his all around game isn't quite good enough for the top sides. 

 

No doubt about his record, I rate him as well just think his price plus wages and limitations make him a tricky proposition. 

 

That's fair enough. I do think if he was playing week in week out he'd benefit, and his all around game wouldn't be looked at as poorly.

 

The options Villa use there currently got example all are kind of bring shoehorned in there, and aren't as good.

 

It'll be interesting to see what happens but I think clubs will come in for him.

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Sibierski

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Fulham have Reiss Nelson, who I'm sure they would rather turn into a permanent buy than sign Barnes. None of the other clubs listed by Kaka would come in for him, except West Ham and that would be dependent on Kudus leaving.

 

Leeds coming up I could see them dropping £35m on him, because he's a goal scorer that they will need. Outside that, it depends on clubs losing a player to then sign Barnes.

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Sibierski

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8 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

If we lose money on Barnes by selling, then don't sell. He gives us plenty when he does get a chance.

 

Issue though, we need to move someone on to be able to manoeuvre a bit more in the market. Breaks down to the below for me:

 

Players you don't want to sell, unless it's an insanely daft offer: Botman, Tino, Hall, Bruno, Tonali, Miley, Gordon, Isak

Players you sell if the offer is reasonable: Joelinton, Barnes, Longstaff, Willock

Players of minimal value that you happily sell, but bring in fuck all: Dubs, Pope, Greek Guy, Burn, Schar, Krafth, Trippier, Kelly, Targett, Almiron, Murphy, Wilson

 

Basically four players to focus on, one of which has signed a new beasty contract, one who's nearing end of a contract, one who's injury prone for past 18 months and then Barnes.

 

 

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tarie4

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29 minutes ago, hakka said:

Is this selling Barnes thing a theoretically discussion to generate PSR cash to allow us to fund two positions we need instead of being over stock on the left? Or is there actual noises of him wanting to leave or we want to sell?

 

I absolutely don't want him sold. Miggy needs to go, Murphy can be back up and hopefully another window a youth player or signing can be winger can be competing one to our next main person. Happy with Gordon and Barnes chipping in on right when needs must.

 

Barnes is goals, even if mostly a sub. Don't want to sell.

Couldn't agree more. 

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SUPERTOON

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30 minutes ago, hakka said:

Is this selling Barnes thing a theoretically discussion to generate PSR cash to allow us to fund two positions we need instead of being over stock on the left? Or is there actual noises of him wanting to leave or we want to sell?

 

I absolutely don't want him sold. Miggy needs to go, Murphy can be back up and hopefully another window a youth player or signing can be winger can be competing one to our next main person. Happy with Gordon and Barnes chipping in on right when needs must.

 

Barnes is goals, even if mostly a sub. Don't want to sell.

Douglas in his piece yesterday suggested he could be available in January.

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The Barnes deal never made much sense to me unless Howe had doubts about Gordon at the time.

 

But saying that, aside from Isak and Wilson, he's the best finisher at the club. He's at a good age and with a run of form and goals his value could or should be higher.

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2 hours ago, r0cafella said:

I just think hes a really expensive option for a mid table side and his all around game isn't quite good enough for the top sides. 

 

No doubt about his record, I rate him as well just think his price plus wages and limitations make him a tricky proposition. 

 

It's his salary that would be the biggest problem. I think there might well be mid/lower table clubs who would pay the fee, but depends on what we are paying him. Our wage structure is generally higher than most in the lower tier.

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Keegans Export

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27 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Shit source but:

 

 

I mentioned him in passing a while back on the basis that I think he's a left-footed RW who is the right age and I think his contract expires next summer. Don't actually know anything about him though.

 

Edit - me and quite a few others I should say

 

 

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KaKa

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We were linked last year and I watched him in a few European games off the back of it, and I liked him a lot.

 

Really seemed to play with intelligence and awareness, but still had good physicals and ability on the ball.

 

I think he's been on our radar, but perhaps Mitchell has now been able to provide more info or data, or might now just be giving us the confidence to make this kind of move.

 

Guess we'll see.

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