Steve Charlton Posted Friday at 18:21 Share Posted Friday at 18:21 Two years left on Gibbs White contract…If Forest have ffp issues lets help them out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Friday at 18:21 Share Posted Friday at 18:21 2 minutes ago, joeyt said: No he isn't Pickford is much better with his feet. I'd argue Pope is better at everything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted Friday at 18:25 Share Posted Friday at 18:25 7 minutes ago, joeyt said: No he isn't Yeah, Pickford is excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted Friday at 18:27 Share Posted Friday at 18:27 4 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Pickford is much better with his feet. I'd argue Pope is better at everything else. He's much more of a natural leader/organiser, as good a sweeper keeper, very good shot stopper. I'd have him despite the Mackem links. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted Friday at 18:32 Share Posted Friday at 18:32 5 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: He's much more of a natural leader/organiser, as good a sweeper keeper, very good shot stopper. I'd have him despite the Mackem links. No, just no lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted Friday at 18:39 Share Posted Friday at 18:39 12 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Yeah, Pickford is excellent. At kicking the ball perhaps. Not a patch on Pope for sweeping, catches and actual goalkeeping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Friday at 18:42 Share Posted Friday at 18:42 9 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: He's much more of a natural leader/organiser, as good a sweeper keeper, very good shot stopper. I'd have him despite the Mackem links. No he is not. All that shouting he does unsettles a defence. Pickford does not command his area because he's too small - inviting pressure on a defence. Nick Pope coming and plucking balls from the sky does so much to reduce pressure on our defence and act as a leader. Pickford can be a ping a ball and is a good shot stopper. And to his credit, always turns up and performs for England. But he wouldn't be an improvement on Pope for us. He's only 31, rarely injured. We could get him for a decent fee... but he wouldn't be an upgrade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Friday at 18:43 Share Posted Friday at 18:43 Oh and he's got no presence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Friday at 18:47 Share Posted Friday at 18:47 I'm surprised one of his CBs hasn't layed him out yet. That routine of screaming in the face of the defenders when they concede is a touch over the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted Friday at 18:58 Share Posted Friday at 18:58 He constantly shouts, points and pulls faces regardless of what’s actually happening. I’ve always thought had some kind of condition so never mocked him for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted Friday at 19:04 Share Posted Friday at 19:04 20 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: No he is not. All that shouting he does unsettles a defence. Pickford does not command his area because he's too small - inviting pressure on a defence. Nick Pope coming and plucking balls from the sky does so much to reduce pressure on our defence and act as a leader. Pickford can be a ping a ball and is a good shot stopper. And to his credit, always turns up and performs for England. But he wouldn't be an improvement on Pope for us. He's only 31, rarely injured. We could get him for a decent fee... but he wouldn't be an upgrade. I watched him closely during the 1-1 when Dummett cost us and he was absolutely immense. Was constantly shouting over to Dyche about things he was picking up on in-game, organising the defence, all round it was one of the best keeping performances I've seen here. Could only dream of a keeper like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted Friday at 19:08 Share Posted Friday at 19:08 51 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Nick Pope is better than Jordan Pickford though. I don’t have a strong opinion there, but even if that is the case Trafford is also a full decade younger than Pope! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted Friday at 19:17 Share Posted Friday at 19:17 Pickford is also 6 foot 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted Friday at 19:26 Share Posted Friday at 19:26 I find it odd people say Pickford is good with the ball at his feet. I mean better than Pope yea, but awful still. He always kicks it long and that is problem for England also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Friday at 19:27 Share Posted Friday at 19:27 He's not awful with the ball at his feet mind. His passing is very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted Friday at 19:34 Share Posted Friday at 19:34 17 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Pickford is also 6 foot 1. That's not the issue, the issue is his 6 inch arms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted Friday at 19:41 Share Posted Friday at 19:41 2 hours ago, PauloGeordio said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted Friday at 19:41 Share Posted Friday at 19:41 Can we just keep Pope and move on with more important positions like CB(love Schar but he’s getting to that age), RW, backup Striker and midfielder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted Friday at 19:43 Share Posted Friday at 19:43 I don't want Pickford, but he's better allround than Pope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted Friday at 19:52 Share Posted Friday at 19:52 (edited) If he didn’t have his roots then I’d be all over Pickford - excellent keeper and the best I’ve seen with his feet - some of his passing in the first half was unreal! The Mackem twat! Edited Friday at 19:53 by Paully Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted Friday at 19:55 Share Posted Friday at 19:55 I think you’d be doing well to find a fan of anyone other than Newcastle that thinks Pickford isn’t a better keeper than Pope. It’s harsh because he’s an excellent traditional GK, just struggles with the ball at his feet. Problem for Pope is that his weakness is such a massive issue in today’s game where the high press is so prevalent. And he’s not just bad with the ball at his feet, he’s horrendous. The keeper is supposed to be an easy outlet for players when trying to play out from the back, always there to reset if you get into bother. Our players don’t have that with Pope, which can lead to them making mistakes when they try something more difficult. You can also see when he comes out to sweep that he’s instructed to just hoof the ball into touch when there’s nothing easy on. It’s just giving up what should be our possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted Friday at 19:55 Share Posted Friday at 19:55 26 minutes ago, Fak said: He's not awful with the ball at his feet mind. His passing is very good. He really doesnt play much/at all short passes. In national team that is a clear problem, cause when the ball is played to Pickford he boots it up almost rightaway. there are a lot better GK with the ball in EPL than Pickford. Lot worse too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Friday at 19:58 Share Posted Friday at 19:58 2 minutes ago, KingArthur said: He really doesnt play much/at all short passes. In national team that is a clear problem, cause when the ball is played to Pickford he boots it up almost rightaway. there are a lot better GK with the ball in EPL than Pickford. Lot worse too. that might me under management instructions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted Friday at 20:00 Share Posted Friday at 20:00 That's why Pickford is so good with his feet though, he's not trying to dink little cheeky through balls out to his right back more than he is hitting it long and flat trying to hit players in better positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted Friday at 20:02 Share Posted Friday at 20:02 Just now, Hanshithispantz said: That's why Pickford is so good with his feet though, he's not trying to dink little cheeky through balls out to his right back more than he is hitting it long and flat trying to hit players in better positions. Yea, but thing is usually the CB is the favourite to win long balls. Beto is so strong he can actually win those. Long balls to Isak are not a good tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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