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[timeEd32]

I’d be quite surprised if Eddie went from not wanting to loan Miley out to outright selling him unless our opinion of him has changed.

[Whitley mag]

Miley should have started in the middle last game of the season instead of changing the whole formation due to 1 man being out, after being trusted in CL games the previous season can see why he’d be frustrated.

[KaKa]

4 hours ago, Zero said:

Not really, look at Anderson. It won’t surprise me if Miley wants to have a break out season like Anderson at Forest

 

Anderson is four years older than Miley.

 

He wasn't anywhere near the first team when he was 19, and was instead on loan in league two.

 

Your comparison doesn't make sense.

 

[Sibierski]

Doubt Miley wants out, but I do reckon his agent has leaked something to get him pushed up the pecking order from Miley saying something like “I should be ahead of Willock”.

 

Sort of thing that gets clubs ears pricked up and forces them to show their hand. He should be 4th choice based on Willock output for ages now, and what Miley showed when he had an early breakthrough. 

 

If we signed someone like Hernandez, then we could move on Willock and Longstaff, still sign a CM, and have Miley getting strong minutes. Because Hall would be emergency 6th CM, with LB his priority position. 

[Keegans Export]

It's really frustrating that, from a PSR perspective, we'd be better off selling Miley and bringing someone like Hayden Hackney in.

 

I don't like the idea of selling him for a number of reasons, not least that we need another CM anyway and it'd mean we'd probably have to keep Willock and Longstaff because I can't see us brining in two midfielders.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Keegans Export said:

It's really frustrating that, from a PSR perspective, we'd be better off selling Miley and bringing someone like Hayden Hackney in.

 

I don't like the idea of selling him for a number of reasons, not least that we need another CM anyway and it'd mean we'd probably have to keep Willock and Longstaff because I can't see us brining in two midfielders.

You can stop threating about PSR. We are through the worst of it. Squad cost will be an issue for us BUT it hasn't been adopted as of yet. 

 

The current ffp regime is full of loop holes, the rules aren't serious anymore. 

[Groundhog63]

45 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Anderson is four years older than Miley.

 

He wasn't anywhere near the first team when he was 19, and was instead on loan in league two.

 

Your comparison doesn't make sense.

 

 

Could be just a comparison of "levels" unrelated to age, no? 

 

I mean, regardless of age, Elliott wasn't ever going to get decent minutes at CM here. He's gone to a club playing a completely different style of football to us and been let loose. It's worked out great for him. 

There's absolutely no doubt Lewis could do the same. At the right club, in the right team. 

As for age, however, the younger chap might struggle with the demand and the consistency requirements. 

[Fak]

1 hour ago, KaKa said:

 

Anderson is four years older than Miley.

 

He wasn't anywhere near the first team when he was 19, and was instead on loan in league two.

 

Your comparison doesn't make sense.

 

 

Miley had a good run in the side when Tonali was banned, Anderson was injured etc. He looked very good and he must certainly have a taste for first team action especially having played in the CL. I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that he's got a real thirst to play reguarly again whilst knowing he's nowhere near good enough to break up the Bruno, Tonali and Joelinton midfield unless there was a combination of injuries and suspensions again gets Miley back into the first XI.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 06:19 by Fak

[Toonjam88]

9 hours ago, SUPERTOON said:

 

That is utter bullshit 

[Optimistic Nut]

They can start the bidding at £70m plus Guehi. 

[Toonjam88]

8 hours ago, The Prophet said:

That’s also bullshit. His agent is Danny Graham anyway and they all get on really well. 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 06:22 by Toonjam88

[Coffee_Johnny]

£100m plus Miley for Wharton and Guehi. Not that I want to lose Miley, but if he is agitating to go (dubious) then Wharton is a level above. 

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

£100m plus Miley for Wharton and Guehi. Not that I want to lose Miley, but if he is agitating to go (dubious) then Wharton is a level above. 

Horrible deal. 

[Shadow Puppets]

From conversations with the Miley family, they are definitely frustrated at his lack of game time (they express that pretty openly), but I massively doubt that they will want him to leave. The whole family are huge fans.

 

I think it’s more likely that we see him sent out on loan if we sign another CM this summer.

[r0cafella]

Just now, Shadow Puppets said:

From conversations with the Miley family, they are definitely frustrated at his lack of game time (they express that pretty openly), but I massively doubt that they will want him to leave. The whole family are huge fans.

 

I think it’s more likely that we see him sent out on loan if we sign another CM this summer.

I don't think we can afford to loan him out. 

 

We practically know Long staff has no future and Willock is on dodgy ground as well. 

 

I do agree he was underused last season though. 

[KaKa]

28 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

 

Could be just a comparison of "levels" unrelated to age, no? 

 

I mean, regardless of age, Elliott wasn't ever going to get decent minutes at CM here. He's gone to a club playing a completely different style of football to us and been let loose. It's worked out great for him. 

There's absolutely no doubt Lewis could do the same. At the right club, in the right team. 

As for age, however, the younger chap might struggle with the demand and the consistency requirements. 

 

18 minutes ago, Fak said:

 

Miley had a good run in the side when Tonali was banned, Anderson was injured etc. He looked very good and he must certainly have a taste for first team action especially having played in the CL. I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that he's got a real thirst to play reguarly again whilst knowing he's nowhere near good enough to break up the Bruno, Tonali and Joelinton midfield unless there was a combination of injuries and suspensions again gets Miley back into the first XI.

 

 

 

 

I just think he should be wary of forcing things too soon.

 

I think they went with the right approach last season, not using him as much coming off that long injury.

 

Don't want him breaking down all the time because too much was put on him from young.

 

Anyway, I doubt much of this is true. Seems a bit much.

[The Butcher]

Be interesting to see how we handle Miley over the next few years. 

 

We don't really look to have much of a culture for youth development at the club.

 

Young prospects are rarely given a proper chance here.

[Toonjam88]

4 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

From conversations with the Miley family, they are definitely frustrated at his lack of game time (they express that pretty openly), but I massively doubt that they will want him to leave. The whole family are huge fans.

 

I think it’s more likely that we see him sent out on loan if we sign another CM this summer.

They are definitely frustrated but it would be mental if you weren’t. 

[Coffee_Johnny]

11 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

 

I just think he should be wary of forcing things too soon.

 

I think they went with the right approach last season, not using him as much coming off that long injury.

 

Don't want him breaking down all the time because too much was put on him from young.

 

Anyway, I doubt much of this is true. Seems a bit much.

Take your point about not forcing things too soon, if it is due to injury. In terms of age, though I can understand the frustrations (whether family, him or agent).
For comparison, Lewis has had a similar England career up through the age groups as Jermaine Jenas. Except by the time JJ was 19 we’d paid big money for him and he had full England caps. You need the exposure/to be relied upon if you are going to show your worth and  fulfil your potential. 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 06:43 by Coffee_Johnny

[KaKa]

1 minute ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

Take your point about not forcing things too soon is due to injury. In terms of age, though I can understand the frustrations (whether family, him or agent).
For comparison, Lewis has had a similar England career up through the age groups as Jermaine Jenas. Except by the time JJ was 19 we’d paid big money for him and he had full England caps. You need the exposure/to be relied upon if you are going to show your worth and  fulfil your potential. 

 

Yeah, and he was getting decent exposure and time for his age.

 

The injury was what slowed that, and he just needs to get back up to speed, and keep working on himself physically.

[The College Dropout]

Do an Aston Villa - sell with a buy back. 
Better to sell to the Champ so he gets more minutes.  

[Thumbheed]

I think Miley's career here depends entirely on him having a single 3-4 game spell where he's the standout player - as a replacement for Joelinton in the starting line up and nails a starting place as a result; glimpses from a 15-20 minute cameo will.never be enough. 

 

He will never usurp Bruno or Sandro in the line up, so unless he's able to show it next year, then I just can't see another 2-3 windows where that midfield is not strengthened to the point that his path to the first team doesn't becomes permanently blocked thereafter.

 

Can I see him being able to replicate or improve on what Joelinton offers on the pitch? Can I see Howe rating him higher than Joelinton at some point next year? No, but extremely happy to be proven wrong.

 

 

[Nucasol]

1 hour ago, Keegans Export said:

It's really frustrating that, from a PSR perspective, we'd be better off selling Miley and bringing someone like Hayden Hackney in.

 

I don't like the idea of selling him for a number of reasons, not least that we need another CM anyway and it'd mean we'd probably have to keep Willock and Longstaff because I can't see us brining in two midfielders.

I’d sign Hackney and send Miley to Boro on a season-long loan, if they get a suitable manager in.

[KaKa]

I think what's likely frustrated them is that when Joelinton got injured and Willock was playing so poorly, that he didn't get more of a chance to step in then.

 

I think that's somewhat understandable actually, when I think about it.

[SteV]

Just now, Nucasol said:

I’d sign Hackney and send Miley to Boro on a season-long loan, if they get a suitable manager in.

We should never loan anyone to Boro, especially young players. Not worth the abuse they would get off the local mutants as soon as they had a couple of indifferent games.