NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Nucasol]

9 minutes ago, Ben said:

 

Just shift him in with Trippier, he'll keep him on the straight and narrow 

Welcome to the spitroast era.

[Dr.Spaceman]

12 minutes ago, 54 said:

Less that, more:

 

 

[Geogaddi]

Grealish is a very good player mind , not sure what's happened to him the last year or two but he would still be good enough for us even if he is a totally different player to the way we play. It will never happen though due to his wages .

 

 

Edited 22 hours ago by Geogaddi

[Stottie]

6 hours ago, r0cafella said:

Im still not expecting anything until July. Most players are now either at the CWC or on holiday. Especially as the international break has ended. 

If it gets done, Jacob Ramsey would be this month for Villa's PSR, no? The consensus is that they must sell someone.

[tarie4]

3 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

I disagree fundamentally. FFP is all about the short term. For us - 2 years, back to back CL football can become transformative.  It will give us the buffer to falter in a medium term or compound success. 
 

We need to consolidate our successes.  That requires taking a risk.   
 

Either we add to our class players and confirm ourselves as CL regulars. Or we sell them and fall further behind. 
 

We take a calculated risk and fail - we sell Isak. If don’t take a risk and fail - we also sell Isak. 

I respectfully disagree with your assessment. While consecutive Champions League qualifications are undoubtedly significant, increased spending and risk-taking this season do not guarantee qualification. With eight teams competing for four or five spots, there's no certainty of achieving back-to-back qualifications, even with a strong squad.

 

From a fan's perspective, I understand the appeal of taking risks. However, our risk-taking has already led to the sale of two players, Miniteh and Anderson. (Incidentally, you spent a considerable portion of last summer questioning the efforts of Wor Mandy and others i.e overspending)

 

The reality of improving our financial position requires a long-term strategy. Reaching Arsenal's revenue levels won't happen in two or three seasons; it will take five years or more. A patient and measured approach is essential.

I would rather sell Isak on our terms rather than sell him out of desperation (you said Brighton took us to the cleaners regarding the price of Miniteh)

 

I respectfully disagree with the approach you've suggested; it doesn't seem sound or reasonable. It's understandable given that your job isn't at stake, but those running the club, and I, hold a different perspective.

 

And about bold bit. The problem with that logic is, if we sell Isak after overspending, we won't be able to replace him with anyone good because we'll be just be selling him to meet the PSR (just like with Minteh and Anderson).

 

If we sell Isak on our terms, without overspending first, we can get decent replacements and fill other spots. Get what I mean?

[Joelinton7]

The only things that are going to get us closer to the cartel teams are increased commercial revenues and an academy that produces highly saleable assets at least every other season. 

[tarie4]

5 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

The only things that are going to get us closer to the cartel teams are increased commercial revenues and an academy that produces highly saleable assets at least every other season. 

That's totally right. They've got so much money, missing the Champions League for a couple of years won't hurt them. We'd feel it after just one year though. Mandy said we'll be number one in 5-10 years, and we're about to start our fourth season, with two CL qualifications and a Cup already. Let's just be patient and let them do their thing. We're in good hands. It's frustrating sometimes, sure, but that'll make the eventual success even sweeter.. 

[Gaztoon]

6 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

That's totally right. They've got so much money, missing the Champions League for a couple of years won't hurt them. We'd feel it after just one year though. Mandy said we'll be number one in 5-10 years, and we're about to start our fourth season, with two CL qualifications and a Cup already. Let's just be patient and let them do their thing. We're in good hands. It's frustrating sometimes, sure, but that'll make the eventual success even sweeter.. 

 

[The College Dropout]

We've got as far as we have by being aggressive. By getting Isak instead of Pedro. Barnes instead of some LW kid. Getting premium youngsters at fullback.

 

Capitalise on having an elite manager at this moment and a strong squad and relatively weak opposition.

 

If we don't push it, we'll finish 7th or lower. Heads will roll regardless if that happens.

 

Time will tell.

 

Edit: I don't think people realise how brutal this new CL format is for squads

 

 

Edited 21 hours ago by The College Dropout

[duo]

[Dan Gleebals]

Would hardly say Brighton took us to the cleaners. £35M for a player with zero prem experience, is hardly a piss take. Granted he did well in Holland. 

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, Dan Gleebals said:

Would hardly say Brighton took us to the cleaners. £35M for a player with zero prem experience, is hardly a piss take. Granted he did well in Holland. 

How much do you think he's worth now?

[tgarve]

3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

How much do you think he's worth now?

30

[Groundhog63]

People thinking £35m for Minteh is rinsing us is the same as people saying £25m for ASM was. 

 

 

 

ie, bollox  😉

[relámpago blanco]

1 hour ago, Joelinton7 said:

The only things that are going to get us closer to the cartel teams are increased commercial revenues and an academy that produces highly saleable assets at least every other season. 

We sold Anderson last season. Miley next for quite alot. 

[aussiemag]

5 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

The approach worked - it just didn’t land the spot by a whisker. By the end of matchweek 24, they were in the CL, FA Cup and 4 points behind us and 5th place. 
 

They ended the season with the same amount of points as 5th - taking the race to the last game of the season, while playing 6 more games than us in that time. And more games prior.  
 

The approach worked. It made them competitive on 3 fronts and was a bit of luck away from being a complete success.  
 

If we take the approach that leaves us without enough quality in-depth, it will not be close. We will not qualify for the CL or Europa League and many on here will call for Howe to lose his job. 
 

As for the particular loans - we’ll only know late in the window who will be available as usual.  Players won’t make squads or first teams and deals will be available.  Same in January. 
 

We need 4 quality additions to the team to compete on multiple fronts.  If we don’t it will take a miracle for us to requalify for the CL.  Isak and Tonali will be liable to leave anyway.  Whether it’s all permanent transfers or a loan or 2 - we need that squad. 

 

Aston Villa did get a bit lucky with their fixtures at the end of the season. Playing the likes of Spurs and other teams who had given up. 

[tarie4]

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1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

We've got as far as we have by being aggressive. By getting Isak instead of Pedro. Barnes instead of some LW kid. Getting premium youngsters at fullback.

 

Capitalise on having an elite manager at this moment and a strong squad and relatively weak opposition.

 

If we don't push it, we'll finish 7th or lower. Heads will roll regardless if that happens.

 

Time will tell.

 

Edit: I don't think people realise how brutal this new CL format is for squads

 

 

 

Looking at Villa's group stage fixtures i would hardly agree with this.. 

Much easier than what we got the year before to be fair.

[huss9]

5 hours ago, PauloGeordio said:

We spent fook all. Won the League cup and got into the UCL. 

 

[The Prophet]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

We've got as far as we have by being aggressive. By getting Isak instead of Pedro. Barnes instead of some LW kid. Getting premium youngsters at fullback.

 

Capitalise on having an elite manager at this moment and a strong squad and relatively weak opposition.

 

If we don't push it, we'll finish 7th or lower. Heads will roll regardless if that happens.

 

Time will tell.

 

Edit: I don't think people realise how brutal this new CL format is for squads

 

 

 

 

 

[JigsawGoesToPieces]

3 hours ago, Ben said:

 

Just shift him in with Trippier, he'll keep him on the straight and narrow 

 

Would be like an R-Kelly party that

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, aussiemag said:

Aston Villa did get a bit lucky with their fixtures at the end of the season. Playing the likes of Spurs and other teams who had given up. 

Win 8 of their last 10 league games. Losing to 3rd place and the 15th place on the last day. 
 

Among that played 4 champions league knockout games and 3 FA Cup games.  
 

We’ll see how we do next season. 

20 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

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Looking at Villa's group stage fixtures i would hardly agree with this.. 

Much easier than what we got the year before to be fair.

It’s the amount of fixtures and the importance/quality.  Anything less than 10 CL games is a disgrace.  Those 10 games would kill this squad. We couldn’t handle 6 last time.  

 

 

Edited 19 hours ago by The College Dropout

[tarie4]

30 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

It’s the amount of fixtures and the importance/quality.  Anything less than 10 CL games is a disgrace.  Those 10 games would kill this squad. We couldn’t handle 6 last time.  

I reckon we'll be alright, Villa made it out of the group stage without their January signings. Their eight games weren't like our six. You can see that from who they played, right? Even you'll agree with that. 

Also we would've made it to the next round if that penalty hadn't been called. Saying we couldn't handle six games is too harsh; we were robbed of three points in Paris, so that's why we didn't qualify. That comment's not fair on Eddie and the players, in my opinion.

 

 

Edited 19 hours ago by tarie4

[LFEE]

Not impressed with McAtee first proper viewing.

[Ben]

6 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Not impressed with McAtee first proper viewing.

 

He's been "Pep'd" post divorce, slow, ponderous and arrogant.

[Turnbull2000]

2 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

Win 8 of their last 10 league games. Losing to 3rd place and the 15th place on the last day. 
 

Among that played 4 champions league knockout games and 3 FA Cup games.  
 

We’ll see how we do next season. 

It’s the amount of fixtures and the importance/quality.  Anything less than 10 CL games is a disgrace.  Those 10 games would kill this squad. We couldn’t handle 6 last time.  

 

 

 

 

My possibly unpopular opinion is that we put second string/kids out in the FA Cup, any maybe even the League Cup. Two or three squad additions won't be enough to manage the workload without risking another injury crisis and dropping back down to 7-8th in the league.