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Menace

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7 minutes ago, McCormick said:


That’s what I’ve been saying. It’s an absolute myth that foreign markets are cheaper; unless  of course you want to take wild gambles on obscure talents.

 

The foreign markets are cheaper to non EPL buyers. You pay the EPL tax one way or another anyway. Foreign clubs must rub their hands with glee as soon as they see a Prem team interested. Still think there's plenty of value abroad to be fair.

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The College Dropout

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13 minutes ago, McCormick said:


Elanga

Akliouche

Kudus

 

People preferring Kudus to Elanga is absolutely wild.

Kudus is the more talented technician. Nothing wild about it.

 

Kudus was disappointing last season. But in his first season got 8 goals and 9 assists. Same total G/A as "high output" Elanga.

 

Kudus also probably doesn't start in his best position often (RW) cos of Bowen. While I think his positional flexibility might be a hindrance to him. He can play CM, AM, RW, ST, LW etc. which is useful

 

 

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PauloGeordio

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Just now, healthyaddiction said:

Personally I want us to sign Akliouche more. Because I've seen him play far less, so it's more exciting.

I second that on the bases that I too haven't seen much of him, but do like the name.

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Dr.Spaceman

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10 minutes ago, Menace said:

 

The foreign markets are cheaper to non EPL buyers. You pay the EPL tax one way or another anyway. Foreign clubs must rub their hands with glee as soon as they see a Prem team interested. Still think there's plenty of value abroad to be fair.

 

We need a stealth multi-club model. What ever happened to PIF trying to buy that Belgian club? Did they just decide to sack the whole idea off once they failed?

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r0cafella

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3 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

We need a stealth multi-club model. What ever happened to PIF trying to buy that Belgian club? Did they just decide to sack the whole idea off once they failed?

It's obviously rancid but this is something which was discussed shortly after the takeover. It's in the long grass with a lot of other high level decisions. 

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JT24

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2 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

It's obviously rancid but this is something which was discussed shortly after the takeover. It's in the long grass with a lot of other high level decisions. 

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Someone who has overseen a multi-club model (MCM) elsewhere would also be valued. Mitchell has continued to explore the possibility of Newcastle creating an MCM of their own — that is part of Jack Ross’s remit as head of strategic technical football partnerships — and, while progress is not necessarily imminent, it remains an attractive long-term option.

 

Mitchell had European and MCM experience, which is partly why the ownership brought him in, but few sporting directors boast a background in both.

This was in the Athletic piece from this morning. So like everything else off-the-field, moving at a glacial pace...

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r0cafella

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1 minute ago, JT24 said:

This was in the Athletic piece from this morning. So like everything else off-the-field, moving at a glacial pace...

Absolutely aye, was weird they dragged it up given precisely nothing has been done on this area. 

 

Meanwhile Chelsea abusing it right and left and even the whiter than white Liverpool will be spinning something up. :lol:

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McCormick

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18 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Kudus is the more talented technician. Nothing wild about it.

 

Kudus was disappointing last season. But in his first season got 8 goals and 9 assists. Same total G/A as "high output" Elanga.

 

Kudus also probably doesn't start in his best position often (RW) cos of Bowen. While I think his positional flexibility might be a hindrance to him. He can play CM, AM, RW, ST, LW etc. which is useful

 

 

 


I agree with some of this but for the right wing slot Howe wants a 2-footed road-runner, with bags of pace, end product and work-rate. That’s exactly what Elanga is/brings. If the prices are the same (Kudus might even go for higher even after a poor season) then Elanga is the clear choice for how Howe wants to play.

 

Also, Kudus’s best position is centrally imo.

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McCormick

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23 minutes ago, healthyaddiction said:

Personally I want us to sign Akliouche more. Because I've seen him play far less, so it's more exciting.


:lol:  I like Akliouche but I’ll never understand this take.

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AyeDubbleYoo

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28 minutes ago, healthyaddiction said:

Personally I want us to sign Akliouche more. Because I've seen him play far less, so it's more exciting.

 

I honestly think this is the rationale behind most posts in this thread. I feel the same most of the time. 

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McCormick

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35 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

It's obviously not a myth like. How Huijsen is like the perfect example of this effect. 

 

Player prices are very much a case by case factor though. 


Huijsen was a gamble on an obscure talent though.

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1 minute ago, McCormick said:


I agree with some of this but for the right wing slot Howe wants a 2-footed road-runner, with bags of pace, end product and work-rate. That’s exactly what Elanga is/brings. If the prices are the same (Kudus might even go for higher even after a poor season) then Elanga is the clear choice for how Howe wants to play.

 

Also, Kudus’s best position is centrally imo.

That's if you're looking at a direct replacement for Murphy which Im not sure we are. Much like when folk thought Tonali was a direct upgrade for Longstaff, the plan is possibly not that simple.

 

Given the supposed links to Pedro, the report that the pitch to Delap was that he'd play plenty  with Isak and not as a winger, the success of the 3/5 at the back last season, I think we may be in for much more flexibility next season.

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McCormick

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1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

He was contracted to Juve and on loan at Roma. He was anything but obscure. 


Of course he was. He was an 18 year old defender that Juve didn’t see a future in. Maybe not super obscure but he was definitely a gamble and yes, that’s paid off. You’re using this (quite niche) successful example only with the benefit of hindsight.

 

 

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mighty__mag

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Hate the fact we are now challenging for silverware, challenging for European football, and our best players are all linked with moves away.

 

Why is Saka, Saliba, Odegaard never talked about moving to City or Liverpool. 

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r0cafella

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Just now, McCormick said:


Of course he was. He was an 18 year old defender that Juve didn’t see a future in. Maybe not super obscure but he was definitely a gamble and yes, that’s paid off. You’re using this (quite niche) successful example only with the benefit of hindsight.

 

 

Any young player is a gamble, the point being 6 good months increased the price exponentially. 

 

As I said, player value will always have many factors but across the board two identical players one with no premier League experience and one with the pl experience will command a premium. 

 

You may want to have a read/listen to how to win the premier League, it's a great book which dives into many aspect of this. 

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Stal

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Who was the poster who used to be known as ITK on here, but then it was discovered they were just getting their stuff from a more credible ITK from another forum?

 

It was quite the drama on here, as I recall.

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Roids

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58 minutes ago, McCormick said:


Elanga

Akliouche

Kudus

 

People preferring Kudus to Elanga is absolutely wild.

Kudus is the best player there by a mile

NOL never fails to disappoint in its lack of ball knowledge

 

 

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