NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Fak]

1 minute ago, Roids said:

NOL never fails to disappoint by its lack of ball knowledge

 

Shut up man you whopper.

[On the Grid]

Best player and best player for a Howe team are different things though 

[The Prophet]

10 minutes ago, mighty__mag said:

Hate the fact we are now challenging for silverware, challenging for European football, and our best players are all linked with moves away.

 

Why is Saka, Saliba, Odegaard never talked about moving to City or Liverpool. 

 

Just an attempt to unsettle innit.

[The College Dropout]

22 minutes ago, McCormick said:

I agree with some of this but for the right wing slot Howe wants a 2-footed road-runner, with bags of pace, end product and work-rate. That’s exactly what Elanga is/brings. If the prices are the same (Kudus might even go for higher even after a poor season) then Elanga is the clear choice for how Howe wants to play.

 

Also, Kudus’s best position is centrally imo.

Kudus is two footed, has bags of pace, end product and decent work rate. And is more tactically flexible.

 

If we are after both of them - it's because they share a lot of similar traits.

 

Kudus was inconsistent last year. But his first season was better than Elanga's last season.,

[The College Dropout]

Liverpool's 3 best players were linked with sales last season and 1 obviously left.

 

Konate and Saliba are on the Madrid rumour list too

[Roids]

Just now, On the Grid said:

Best player and best player for a Howe team are different things though 

Not when the gulf in talent is that large

Elanga is a speed merchant that's it, ability matters and that supersedes that every time (not to mention Kudus is no slouch either)
Kudus is also far more versatile and can play across the line at a good level

[simonsays]

6 minutes ago, Menace said:

Saying there's no value in Europe when one of the best flips we've had in recent years being Minteh is...

Yeah, but we are looking for players to improve the first xi.  Buying relatively cheap players with potential for the youth team/to loan out (such as kinteh and corduroy) is fine and I'm sure we will continue to do that, but people seem to want us to buy first team ready players for pennies.  In order to improve on our current first xi we are going to have to spend big, whether it's domestically or from Europe.

[Kid Icarus]

If you're going to get stuck into SP at least do it about his insistence that Trippier's marriage was fine.

 

[Thumbheed]

Elanga is a souped up version of Murphy and has the added bonus of being able to play both wings. 

 

I'm not sure why we wouldn't want that but there's no bad pick out of the 3 names mentioned.

[On the Grid]

4 minutes ago, Roids said:

Not when the gulf in talent is that large

Elanga is a speed merchant that's it, ability matters and that supersedes that every time (not to mention Kudus is no slouch either)
Kudus is also far more versatile and can play across the line at a good level

Could he buy i into the team ethic and workrate that is expected in a Howe team? Can he understand detailed instructions in team shape and carry them out to the letter? He might have skills but that is not the be all and end all of what is required to work for our team

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by On the Grid

[mighty__mag]

Just now, The Prophet said:

 

Just an attempt to unsettle innit.

 

You hope, but it's always the same, I'd love our fans on social media to start one of them viral things off, a bit like the Colos party or Nick Pope thing, only this time its Newcastle are signing Saka, or were signing Cole Palmer, etc.

[jack j]

5 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

If you're going to get stuck into SP at least do it about his insistence that Trippier's marriage was fine.

 

Ooooft it was comical ali levels of denial that

[The College Dropout]

16 minutes ago, McCormick said:

Of course he was. He was an 18 year old defender that Juve didn’t see a future in. Maybe not super obscure but he was definitely a gamble and yes, that’s paid off. You’re using this (quite niche) successful example only with the benefit of hindsight.

 

 

Obscure is Mahrez from Le Havre for less than a million. Obscure is not a £15m signing from Juventus, having played in Serie A for Roma too. Capped at every youth level for Netherlands.

 

That is not obscure. Huijsen was seen as a coup from the start due to his reputation. Obscure means little known.

 

Minteh was far more obscure and even then, I don't think that's the right word. Within the game at least, Minteh had a big reputation which is why the fee was decent and he went on-loan to a fairly big club.

[Shadow Puppets]

6 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

If you're going to get stuck into SP at least do it about his insistence that Trippier's marriage was fine.

 

😁 Haha, yeah, that clearly turned out wrong didn’t it. But in my defence, literally that day I had seen them both together and they certainly still looked together.

[Thumbheed]

No value in Europe is a mad take. 

 

A player can have a sensational season in the European market (Akliouche, Diomande) and be worth £50-60m tops. 

 

A player who has a sensational season in this league will be worth twice that if he's bought at that price - literally all of our player bought from abroad are worth double what they were bought for minimum. 

 

It is the literal definition of value. 

 

[Roids]

15 minutes ago, On the Grid said:

Could he buy i into the team ethic and workrate that is expected in a Howe team? Can he understand detailed instructions in team shape and carry them out to the letter? He might have skills but that is not the be all and end all of what is required to work for our team

 

 

 

And how do you know he can't? 

 

You can't assume the worst of him then write him off on that assumption. 

Most of us have ambitions of Newcastle being a consistent Top 4/5 side and eventual challengers, Elanga does nothing to help with that

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Roids

[Roids]

24 minutes ago, Fak said:

 

Shut up man you whopper.

low level football knowledge and RTG-esque bants

[Andy84]

2 hours ago, The Prophet said:

So according to the Athletic, Mitchell formally handed over his responsibilities on Tuesday, but is still around to provide guidance.

 

It'll be Eddie, Andy and Nickson leasing recruitment with assistance from Reuben and Solis.

Quote happy with that 

[On the Grid]

26 minutes ago, Roids said:

And how do you know he can't? 

 

You can't assume the worst of him then write him off on that assumption. 

Most of us have ambitions of Newcastle being a consistent Top 4/5 side and eventual challengers, Elanga does nothing to help with that

 

 

 

I don't know he can't but how do you know he can? I'm just pointing out that to say he is the best player because he has skills you like, doesnt mean he would be the best fit for an Eddie Howe team

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by On the Grid

[McCormick]

1 hour ago, Roids said:

Kudus is the best player there by a mile

NOL never fails to disappoint in its lack of ball knowledge

 

 

 

Agree to disagree. 

[McCormick]

51 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Obscure is Mahrez from Le Havre for less than a million. Obscure is not a £15m signing from Juventus, having played in Serie A for Roma too. Capped at every youth level for Netherlands.

 

That is not obscure. Huijsen was seen as a coup from the start due to his reputation. Obscure means little known.

 

Minteh was far more obscure and even then, I don't think that's the right word. Within the game at least, Minteh had a big reputation which is why the fee was decent and he went on-loan to a fairly big club.

Fine; maybe obscure was a little bit of an exaggeration but any player with a lot  to prove represents a gamble and fees usually reflect this. Established or let’s say more “hyped” players in any league will go for big money.

[TRon]

53 minutes ago, Thumbheed said:

No value in Europe is a mad take. 

 

A player can have a sensational season in the European market (Akliouche, Diomande) and be worth £50-60m tops. 

 

A player who has a sensational season in this league will be worth twice that if he's bought at that price - literally all of our player bought from abroad are worth double what they were bought for minimum. 

 

It is the literal definition of value. 

 

 

Agree with this. While I understand Trafford is worth paying a bit extra for being battle hardened in English football, I saw us linked with Lucas Chevalier as an alternative. He looks like he's going to be a top GK as well, if we can get him for significantly less and his club are easier to deal with, I wouldn't be unhappy with seeing him here. 

[McCormick]

49 minutes ago, Thumbheed said:

No value in Europe is a mad take. 

 

A player can have a sensational season in the European market (Akliouche, Diomande) and be worth £50-60m tops. 

 

A player who has a sensational season in this league will be worth twice that if he's bought at that price - literally all of our player bought from abroad are worth double what they were bought for minimum. 

 

It is the literal definition of value. 

 

Neither Diomande nor Akliouche had what you’d call “sensational” seasons. Akliouche performed well, while Diomande was relatively underwhelming—so a €60 million price tag for either doesn’t exactly scream value. Fair prices, perhaps, but nothing exceptional in my view. Meanwhile, Ekitike, who by most accounts had a genuinely standout season, is reportedly being valued at €85 million.

 

As for the Huijsen deal, people talk about it as if flipping a €17 million signing into a €50 million sale within a year is straightforward—but in reality, that kind of return is extremely rare.

[Roids]

46 minutes ago, On the Grid said:

I don't know he can't but how do you know he can? I'm just pointing out that to say he is the best player because he has skills you like, doesnt mean he would be the best fit for an Eddie Howe team

 

 

 

I hear you but that could apply to every potential signing which makes it a mostly redundant point (unless it's clearly apparent as it is with some players)
I can only judge on talent

[Stottie]

1 hour ago, McCormick said:

Huijsen was a gamble on an obscure talent though.

It was also a gamble by a club facing low stakes. Finish anywhere from 9th in the league to 17th and it doesn't matter.

Its important for us to be in the CL. Dropping one never mind two places is not an option.