r0cafella Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, STM said: Is it actually? Ben will be along in a minute. Probably goes without saying but word is (according to our ever so reliable local journalists) that hes not exactly living up to expectations behind the scenes. Yeah I mean he's the one in charge of the data side. He's not a football guy so I wouldnt expect him to have the eye for talent and if that was that club are expecting them I'm not sure what to say. Would love to know more about him not being good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Think he's supposed to be in charge of developing a Newcastle specific data model, with input provided from the recruitment side of the club. Not great to hear that he might not be up to it to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 9 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Yeah I mean he's the one in charge of the data side. He's not a football guy so I wouldnt expect him to have the eye for talent and if that was that club are expecting them I'm not sure what to say. Would love to know more about him not being good I was just watching Geordie Journos and Liam Kennedy eluded to someone who was meant to be "best in class" in our data recruitment basically not living up to expectations. Just to be clear, he was implying that he wasnt living up to expectations inside the halls of Newcastle, as opposed to a fan/journalist perspective. So I wouldn't be surprised to see changes. Wilson himself might have already got to grips with it, to be fair but I did think it was interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 42 minutes ago, STM said: I was just watching Geordie Journos and Liam Kennedy eluded to someone who was meant to be "best in class" in our data recruitment basically not living up to expectations. Just to be clear, he was implying that he wasnt living up to expectations inside the halls of Newcastle, as opposed to a fan/journalist perspective. So I wouldn't be surprised to see changes. Wilson himself might have already got to grips with it, to be fair but I did think it was interesting. Thanks for sharing STM. It doesn't surprise me as we have a bit of a conflict a club stuffed full of traditional football people where as we bring In suds who will definitely struggle with the eye test as he's a data guy. I imagine we are struggling to integrate data into our traditional workflows tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 3 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Thanks for sharing STM. It doesn't surprise me as we have a bit of a conflict a club stuffed full of traditional football people where as we bring In suds who will definitely struggle with the eye test as he's a data guy. I imagine we are struggling to integrate data into our traditional workflows tbh. Again, I think a DoF is the key in all of this. Someone needs to see the whole picture and have experience in dealing with the whole picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago (edited) Doesn't Suds have a proven background at Atlanta though? I'd expect him to work well for us if he's worked at good club who didn't shell out loads on the expensive 'obvious' signings Edited 10 hours ago by janpawel Spelling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Just now, STM said: Again, I think a DoF is the key in all of this. Someone needs to see the whole picture and have experience in dealing with the whole picture. Absolutely couldn't agree more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Just now, janpawel said: Doesn't Suds have a proven background at Atlanta though? I'd not expect him to work well for us if he's worked at good club who didn't shell out loads on the expensive 'obvious' signings Yeah he does but he's still not a football guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago I don’t know how you can’t be good at analysing data and passing on the data that meets the required criteria. Sounds like we may be better off with copilot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, RS said: I don’t know how you can’t be good at analysing data and passing on the data that meets the required criteria. Sounds like we may be better off with copilot He will be doing all of that, it's probably the data gets passed on to the scouts and they find holes in the players game and everyone looks at Suds like wtf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Using data analysis (copilot) our targets this window should be; 🧠 Said El Mala — AM/Winger, Germany Estimated fee: ~£40–45m Why: Explosive Bundesliga breakout; Brentford reportedly had a €45m bid rejected which implies a valuation just under NUFC’s range. Strong ball‑carrying and chance creation. Source: ⚡ Rio Ngumoha — Winger, Liverpool Estimated fee: ~£35–45m Why: One of Europe’s top teenage performers in 2025/26 with 29 senior appearances and a PFA Young Player nomination. Liverpool say he’s “not for sale”, but a big bid could test resolve. Source: 🎯 Jessic Ngankam — Forward, Eintracht Frankfurt Estimated fee: ~£10–15m Why: Under‑the‑radar Bundesliga forward with strong underlying metrics. Recently moved to Wolfsberger AC on loan, meaning a permanent deal could be cheap. Source: 🛡️ Warmed Omari — CB, Rennes Estimated fee: ~£12–18m Why: Ball‑playing centre‑back with Ligue 1 pedigree. Hamburg activated a purchase option despite injuries — suggests undervalued talent NUFC could upgrade on. Source: 🧩 Morgan Guilavogui — Winger, Lens Estimated fee: ~£4–6m Why: Direct, athletic wide player with Ligue 1 experience. Recently moved to MLS for £4.3m, showing he’s attainable and undervalued. 🧱 Kanta Doi — CB, FC Tokyo Estimated fee: ~£3–5m Why: Dominant aerially, composed in possession, already linked with Chelsea & Man Utd. Source: 🎨 Kacper Urbański — CM/AM, Legia Warsaw Estimated fee: ~£3m Why: One of Poland’s most technically gifted young midfielders; already has senior international caps. Give me my £120k salary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, RS said: Using data analysis (copilot) our targets this window should be; 🧠 Said El Mala — AM/Winger, Germany Estimated fee: ~£40–45m Why: Explosive Bundesliga breakout; Brentford reportedly had a €45m bid rejected which implies a valuation just under NUFC’s range. Strong ball‑carrying and chance creation. Source: ⚡ Rio Ngumoha — Winger, Liverpool Estimated fee: ~£35–45m Why: One of Europe’s top teenage performers in 2025/26 with 29 senior appearances and a PFA Young Player nomination. Liverpool say he’s “not for sale”, but a big bid could test resolve. Source: 🎯 Jessic Ngankam — Forward, Eintracht Frankfurt Estimated fee: ~£10–15m Why: Under‑the‑radar Bundesliga forward with strong underlying metrics. Recently moved to Wolfsberger AC on loan, meaning a permanent deal could be cheap. Source: 🛡️ Warmed Omari — CB, Rennes Estimated fee: ~£12–18m Why: Ball‑playing centre‑back with Ligue 1 pedigree. Hamburg activated a purchase option despite injuries — suggests undervalued talent NUFC could upgrade on. Source: 🧩 Morgan Guilavogui — Winger, Lens Estimated fee: ~£4–6m Why: Direct, athletic wide player with Ligue 1 experience. Recently moved to MLS for £4.3m, showing he’s attainable and undervalued. 🧱 Kanta Doi — CB, FC Tokyo Estimated fee: ~£3–5m Why: Dominant aerially, composed in possession, already linked with Chelsea & Man Utd. Source: 🎨 Kacper Urbański — CM/AM, Legia Warsaw Estimated fee: ~£3m Why: One of Poland’s most technically gifted young midfielders; already has senior international caps. Give me my £120k salary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Decent listen with some interesting bits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: Yeah I mean he's the one in charge of the data side. He's not a football guy so I wouldnt expect him to have the eye for talent and if that was that club are expecting them I'm not sure what to say. Would love to know more about him not being good If he was the wrong hire then we need to look at whoever was responsible for identifying him as the right man for the job. He obviously wasn't a football guy, but then if you needed a football man doing the data analysis then why hire him in the first place? Bizarre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 2 minutes ago, TRon said: If he was the wrong hire then we need to look at whoever was responsible for identifying him as the right man for the job. He obviously wasn't a football guy, but then if you needed a football man doing the data analysis then why hire him in the first place? Bizarre. When I say football man, I'm speaking in terms of someone who grew up watching it and it was very much part of them (like us). His background isn't that, and it's fine he's a data guy, number cruncher etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Mike Maignan rumoured to want a transfer Could he be the perfect starting keeper to have while Ewan learns his trade for a few years? Both French as well Not sure on Maignan's wages though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 3 minutes ago, janpawel said: Mike Maignan rumoured to want a transfer Could he be the perfect starting keeper to have while Ewan learns his trade for a few years? Both French as well Not sure on Maignan's wages though Captains AC Milan. 6ft 3”. Bring him hyem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 53 minutes ago, r0cafella said: When I say football man, I'm speaking in terms of someone who grew up watching it and it was very much part of them (like us). His background isn't that, and it's fine he's a data guy, number cruncher etc. Yes I get that, I just don't understand why Liam from the journos was saying he's not been impressive, whatever his role is. It still means whoever is hiring these supposedly best in class backroom staff don't appear to know what they are doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtua Stiva Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, TRon said: Yes I get that, I just don't understand why Liam from the journos was saying he's not been impressive, whatever his role is. It still means whoever is hiring these supposedly best in class backroom staff don't appear to know what they are doing. He wouldn’t be the first bullshitter to sound good in an interview and shit the bed when it came to actually doing the job tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Virtua Stiva said: He wouldn’t be the first bullshitter to sound good in an interview and shit the bed when it came to actually doing the job tbf Aye but you would like to think whoever is doing the interview would be able to spot that earlier given that's their job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: Recently moved to MLS for £4.3m, showing he’s attainable and undervalued. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Fernandez-Pardo on bench for Belgium v. Tunisia. You'd think he'd come on at some point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, toon25 said: Fernandez-Pardo on bench for Belgium v. Tunisia. You'd think he'd come on at some point What’s the latest with that guy, is he the one they want 70m for and Chelsea wanted him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Liam Kennedy and reliable journalist in the same breath. In 2026. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Fucking copilot posts now man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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