Weezertron Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 22 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: Howe said something pretty telling today... that we don't necessarily need to lose any more players this window in order to bring them in. I guess the subtext is that we don't necessarily have to sell Miggy in order to get a new RW in, but he did say between this window and the next there would need to be player trading, in and out, to remain compliant... just not necessarily this window. Planning to cover your PSR deficit with future sales seems naive, if that’s how I’ve read it. Who are we selling between this window and next? The dead wood we can’t already shift? Tripper and Wilson? Who will be even older by that point or out of contract? Unless he means a crown jewel or a wonderkid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 1 minute ago, Weezertron said: Planning to cover your PSR deficit with future sales seems naive, if that’s how I’ve read it. Who are we selling between this window and next? The dead wood we can’t already shift? Tripper and Wilson? Who will be even older by that point or out of contract? Unless he means a crown jewel or a wonderkid. I guess what he's saying is there's no pressure to offload Miggy in a cut price deal in the next two weeks. Say the Guehi deal goes through AND we get a RW for £30-£40m... we could in theory lose Miggy, Lascelles and others anytime between now and the end of June next year to be compliant again, and with more commercial revenue coming in, that deficit might not be as great come June as it would appear now. But what the fuck do I know 😀 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said: I guess what he's saying is there's no pressure to offload Miggy in a cut price deal in the next two weeks. Say the Guehi deal goes through AND we get a RW for £30-£40m... we could in theory lose Miggy, Lascelles and others anytime between now and the end of June next year to be compliant again, and with more commercial revenue coming in, that deficit might not be as great come June as it would appear now. But what the fuck do I know 😀 That’s how I read it too, but my worry is who is buying Miggy and Lascelles between now and next year for any sort of fee? Thats not a guarantee. So when we inevitably can’t, are we OK with selling Gordon? personally I’d rather we buy what we can, and not be relying on future sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 3 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: I guess what he's saying is there's no pressure to offload Miggy in a cut price deal in the next two weeks. Say the Guehi deal goes through AND we get a RW for £30-£40m... we could in theory lose Miggy, Lascelles and others anytime between now and the end of June next year to be compliant again, and with more commercial revenue coming in, that deficit might not be as great come June as it would appear now. But what the fuck do I know 😀 That makes sense anyway, and it ties in with how we are doing our recruitment. Not really sure there's a better alternative, it gives us another window to sell surplus players, and if we can't then we'll have to sell purples for a big profit. Unfortunately we can't force other clubs to buy our surplus, and we can't force them to go to clubs they don't want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 5 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: I guess what he's saying is there's no pressure to offload Miggy in a cut price deal in the next two weeks. Say the Guehi deal goes through AND we get a RW for £30-£40m... we could in theory lose Miggy, Lascelles and others anytime between now and the end of June next year to be compliant again, and with more commercial revenue coming in, that deficit might not be as great come June as it would appear now. But what the fuck do I know 😀 I think some people need to let the club run things and worry if they happen when they happen. Granted there’s an argument that they shouldn’t have got themselves into the situation re PSR at the end of June. But they don’t appear to be behaving recklessly as per Chelsea so for me I’m just happy to let things play out, I don’t get that worried about PSR ramifications with signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Think we need to be realistic that we will need to sell one of our stars in the future like. And if @Paully gets his way then it will be gordon to Liverpool this month Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 I wouldn’t worry about PSR sales, as before claiming a sale is needed you need to know the revenue and costs. On the revenue side it would be pretty dumb to do a sale they don’t want to do now, then find at the end of the year by finishing 3rd in the league and having great cup runs has generated more TV money and prize money and the sale was never needed. Or they get another commercial deal done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 56 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: I think some people need to let the club run things and worry if they happen when they happen. Granted there’s an argument that they shouldn’t have got themselves into the situation re PSR at the end of June. But they don’t appear to be behaving recklessly as per Chelsea so for me I’m just happy to let things play out, I don’t get that worried about PSR ramifications with signings. 👍🏻 It’s not ours to worry about. Enjoy the ride. Exciting “generational” talent that could be part of our spine for many years to come. He’s an investment. Hope we get this lad in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 9 minutes ago, jack j said: Think we need to be realistic that we will need to sell one of our stars in the future like. And if @Paully gets his way then it will be gordon to Liverpool this month if we don’t get champions league next season at least one of them will be away anyway I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 If they leave it until next summer, they'll have to sit tight until Bruno's release clause expires again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Just now, The Prophet said: If they leave it until next summer, they'll have to sit tight until Bruno's release clause expires again. Is that how the clause works? I didn’t know if it would be this summer only or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: If they leave it until next summer, they'll have to sit tight until Bruno's release clause expires again. Howe hinted he wont have a release clause next summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Howe hinted he wont have a release clause next summer. Oh, that'd be nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 I wonder who are ideal right wing target is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: I wonder who are ideal right wing target is. Think he went to Bayern Munich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Just now, The Prophet said: I wonder who are ideal right wing target is. They were all in for Raphinha a month ago (not sure if that's still a goer). I've heard another couple of names more recently but can't fucking remember them. One of them plays RW for Porto I think, but I can't remember his name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said: They were all in for Raphinha a month ago (not sure if that's still a goer). I've heard another couple of names more recently but can't fucking remember them. One of them plays RW for Porto I think, but I can't remember his name. Conceicao? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 2 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: They were all in for Raphinha a month ago (not sure if that's still a goer). I've heard another couple of names more recently but can't fucking remember them. One of them plays RW for Porto I think, but I can't remember his name. I'm sure you get asked loads, so apologies to add to that but is a RW still on the agenda if we purchase Guehi do you know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 3 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: They were all in for Raphinha a month ago (not sure if that's still a goer). I've heard another couple of names more recently but can't fucking remember them. One of them plays RW for Porto I think, but I can't remember his name. One of these 3 then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 48 minutes ago, jack j said: Think we need to be realistic that we will need to sell one of our stars in the future like. And if @Paully gets his way then it will be gordon to Liverpool this month Ha ha I’d be gutted but I’m very fearful mate about it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 3 hours ago, Mag3.14 said: Todd boy clearly thinking because he chucks silly money everywhere others will too Be interesting what "creative" solution they'll come up with for FFP compliance this time - No more hotels, training grounds, or womans teams to "sell" this time round ... Womans team?? what's the story behind that one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 1 hour ago, Shadow Puppets said: I guess what he's saying is there's no pressure to offload Miggy in a cut price deal in the next two weeks. Say the Guehi deal goes through AND we get a RW for £30-£40m... we could in theory lose Miggy, Lascelles and others anytime between now and the end of June next year to be compliant again, and with more commercial revenue coming in, that deficit might not be as great come June as it would appear now. But what the fuck do I know 😀 I didn’t think we’d do this again based on how June ended, though how nervy it is greatly depends on the size of the gap. But the new Premier League market advantage is having money to spend in June. Hopefully we can get ourselves on the other side of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 1 minute ago, Gawalls said: Womans team?? what's the story behind that one? https://www.football.london/womens-football/todd-boehlys-blueco-made-chelsea-29532000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 7 minutes ago, simonsays said: Conceicao? I'd imagine that's him. Quite heavily linked with Juve too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I'd imagine that's him. Quite heavily linked with Juve too. Came across as a diving, cheating little turd at the Euros - much like Gordon did before he joined Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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