ExiledGeordie Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 Have to sign a RW in Jan for me, someone who can create and score goals to help spread the play and create space more particularly as we don’t play with a 10. We also need goals ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 I’m tired of players who are athletes first and foremost, with the stamina of a horse, and can run and press all day long. For once, I would like to see us sign a maverick. Someone with a bit of flair and trickery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 19 minutes ago, Jewel said: I’m tired of players who are athletes first and foremost, with the stamina of a horse, and can run and press all day long. For once, I would like to see us sign a maverick. Someone with a bit of flair and trickery. a bit of fret Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 7 hours ago, McDog said: Hate to see him go but would be a tidy bit of business at that price. Rather see him stay. I’m relaxed about the Isak situation. He’s superb, obviously, but if we do sell him it’ll be for a kings ransom and the entire amount will be reinvested back in to the team so I’m easy either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 He's going to be the most difficult player to replace, but £115 million would be an incredible starting point for a rebuild. Add on a few extra sales / releases and you're laughing. It would be good to see us then be aggressive, going after one or two elites before then hoovering up some squad filler talent like Rowe, Gilmour, Latte Lath, Guehi, Whittaker, Trafford etc all players who would walk improve our matchday squad without costing hundreds of billions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 2 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: He's going to be the most difficult player to replace, but £115 million would be an incredible starting point for a rebuild. Add on a few extra sales / releases and you're laughing. It would be good to see us then be aggressive, going after one or two elites before then hoovering up some squad filler talent like Rowe, Gilmour, Latte Lath, Guehi, Whittaker, Trafford etc all players who would walk improve our matchday squad without costing hundreds of billions. Is our squad that bad whereby we need players who are worst than our starters to come in? I'm not sure about this approach personally. We should be investing in the starting 11 where possible and the existing players can become rotational players/sold and refreshed with younger talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 13 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: He's going to be the most difficult player to replace, but £115 million would be an incredible starting point for a rebuild. Add on a few extra sales / releases and you're laughing. It would be good to see us then be aggressive, going after one or two elites before then hoovering up some squad filler talent like Rowe, Gilmour, Latte Lath, Guehi, Whittaker, Trafford etc all players who would walk improve our matchday squad without costing hundreds of billions. Isak you just don’t try and replace like for like. He’s a silky tall man, just a rawness of player with top end ability you don’t see often. Better off taking a different direction with the striker, then subsequent build up around them if the worse was to happy and he goes. Like Delap at £40m would be the striker for me. Different style, more physical, so can look to get a wide man that thrives more off that type of striker. Hopefully not needed though, and Isak here till end of decade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 9 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Is our squad that bad whereby we need players who are worst than our starters to come in? I'm not sure about this approach personally. We should be investing in the starting 11 where possible and the existing players can become rotational players/sold and refreshed with younger talent. Good luck improving on Isak, Bruno, Tonali & Botman when your league position is going backwards. We're also never upgrading Tino, Hall, Gordon or Joelinton. Rowe and Whittaker are both better than Murphy and Miggy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 The Isak situation has an inevitability about it for me, eventually champions league clubs will come in for him. As others have said if we get a massive sum for him and re invest then so be it. I don’t want him to go but that’s the reality of it I think. Hopefully European qualifying can stave that off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 1 minute ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Good luck improving on Isak, Bruno, Tonali & Botman when your league position is going backwards. We're also never upgrading Tino, Hall, Gordon or Joelinton. Rowe and Whittaker are both better than Murphy and Miggy. Why try and improve those? Improve Schar Burn Long staff Murphy Barnes pope. Plenty of headroom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: Why try and improve those? Improve Schar Burn Long staff Murphy Barnes pope. Plenty of headroom. Pretty much all of those shouldn’t be playing already TBH. Only Schar and Pope should be starters, and even Schar is probably one window away from replacement. Bit harsh to put Barnes in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: Pretty much all of those shouldn’t be playing already TBH. Only Schar and Pope should be starters, and even Schar is probably one window away from replacement. Bit harsh to put Barnes in there. You see Barnes starting week in and week out? I like him and rate him but his limitations are quite obvious and you need to tailor your system to cover for them. We probably need to upgrade both Schar and Pope next season if we want to push for CL. time waits for no man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 Just now, r0cafella said: You see Barnes starting week in and week out? I like him and rate him but his limitations are quite obvious and you need to tailor your system to cover for them. We probably need to upgrade both Schar and Pope next season if we want to push for CL. time waits for no man. No, but what I mean is, you’re saying Barnes is a squad player but you want a better squad player than him? He’s probably one of the best forwards in the league who isn’t playing regularly. I agree about Schar and Pope, sure that’s already in the plans. Guehi and Botman could be our CBs come February. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: No, but what I mean is, you’re saying Barnes is a squad player but you want a better squad player than him? He’s probably one of the best forwards in the league who isn’t playing regularly. I agree about Schar and Pope, sure that’s already in the plans. Guehi and Botman could be our CBs come February. Barnes is serviceable as a squad player that is a good point. If he's content with that role I've got no objections. Guehi is good and I like him but id prefer someone is who more actually dominant as we might be a bit exposed defending set pieces having him. Fee has to come way down too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 2 hours ago, Whitley mag said: I still don’t think we get anywhere near the best out of Isak, 2 wingers who create fuck all and no number 10 to thread him passes, this season isn’t going to help keep him as it stands. Problem is, the game is stacked against us. The only way to keep genuine world class players is to become a world class team. We are prevented from doing this by rules specifically designed to stop us building one. The only way to get on the ladder is....to sell our world class players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 15 minutes ago, TRon said: Problem is, the game is stacked against us. The only way to keep genuine world class players is to become a world class team. We are prevented from doing this by rules specifically designed to stop us building one. The only way to get on the ladder is....to sell our world class players. Yeah complete farce, John Gibson was saying this on a recent podcast. It’s literally the perfect set up for the top six to keep the status quo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 57 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Good luck improving on Isak, Bruno, Tonali & Botman when your league position is going backwards. We're also never upgrading Tino, Hall, Gordon or Joelinton. Rowe and Whittaker are both better than Murphy and Miggy. We signed Bruno when we were in the relegation zone, and Isak and Botman after we finished bottom half. We’re in a much better position today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 34 minutes ago, TRon said: Problem is, the game is stacked against us. The only way to keep genuine world class players is to become a world class team. We are prevented from doing this by rules specifically designed to stop us building one. The only way to get on the ladder is....to sell our world class players. This is how Spurs did it, mind. Berbatov, Bale, Modric etc. Bought well and sold incredibly well. This is what turned them into a ‘big six’ club when they hadn’t been anything of the sort for two decades. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 49 minutes ago, TRon said: Problem is, the game is stacked against us. The only way to keep genuine world class players is to become a world class team. We are prevented from doing this by rules specifically designed to stop us building one. The only way to get on the ladder is....to sell our world class players. The cherry on top being that we could only sell to the very teams we're trying to catch. It's all utter horseshit and the principal reason for why we haven't kicked on this year. If you're not one of those teams, you make one competitively-priced mistake and you're fucked. The pressure on our academy should be immense now. Don't envy Harper's role at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: This is how Spurs did it, mind. Berbatov, Bale, Modric etc. Bought well and sold incredibly well. This is what turned them into a ‘big six’ club when they hadn’t been anything of the sort for two decades. Yes it can be done...but you can't hang your hat on it. The only advantage you can have over any other clubs in that regard is hiring the best people to recruit young talent. I suppose we could pay more for a DOF than Spurs, Chelsea or Villa would. But realistically they will all want to follow the same model so I guess it comes down to who is the most attractive. We couldn't hold Man U off when it came to keeping Ashworth. Was that just a one off because of previous relations, or do the established super clubs already have a built in advantage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: This is how Spurs did it, mind. Berbatov, Bale, Modric etc. Bought well and sold incredibly well. This is what turned them into a ‘big six’ club when they hadn’t been anything of the sort for two decades. Liverpool did it as well. Sold their star players like Suarez. The Coutinho money bought them Salah, Van Dijk and Alisson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 Did Barca suddenly fix their financial problems? I don't see them being able to afford Isak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 4 minutes ago, rebelrouser said: Did Barca suddenly fix their financial problems? I don't see them being able to afford Isak. Swap deal for Raphinia, Olmo and Pedri, I heard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 5 hours ago, Jewel said: Liverpool did it as well. Sold their star players like Suarez. The Coutinho money bought them Salah, Van Dijk and Alisson. No better example than this. Those 3 are greats in their position imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 5 hours ago, Jewel said: Liverpool did it as well. Sold their star players like Suarez. The Coutinho money bought them Salah, Van Dijk and Alisson. Even Ferguson sold amazing players at their peak - it happens, it will happen to us. No player is irreplaceable, even Isak. Selling 2 or 3 top players at the same time would be a catastrophe, selling one of them to be able to build a better team would be sensible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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