geordie_b Posted December 27, 2024 Share Posted December 27, 2024 2 hours ago, Rafalove said: Looks class. But also looks a fair bit older than eighteen. When you buy Demba Ba from the African version of wish.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted December 27, 2024 Share Posted December 27, 2024 Khusanov looks like the kind of player who would absolutely get a red card 5 minutes into his debut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted December 27, 2024 Share Posted December 27, 2024 so this guy is a Scottish, follower of Uzbekistan football, and is coincidentally based in Newcastle. Seems to rate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 27, 2024 Share Posted December 27, 2024 Why do people think Dibling will be cheap? Defensive teenagers like Gray and Hall have gone for over £30m. Dibling will go for closer to £50m than £30m imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted December 27, 2024 Share Posted December 27, 2024 Like the look of Khusanov - looks pretty fast, two-footed, some nice passes, even takes some free kicks. Very aggressive. Gets a ton of interceptions but also quite a few yellows. From his stats, although he's listed at about 6'1"/2 he wins a lot of aerial balls. Feel we played quite well with Botman covering while Schar was more aggressive so they may pair well. That said, he hasn't played that much in Ligue 1. Only 20 games or so. Might be more of a Saliba project where he needs a bit more time to develop there before being Prem ready. Could see him staying on loan this year and maybe next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 He’s not getting that physicality in the Premier League, especially against the red tops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 Dibling will be around 50m. That said, he does worth a gamble. It’s harder to find a great RW nowadays. Tons of supply for LW. I don’t know why, might be due to the inverted wingers trend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 Think the inverse is true. there’s an array of top class left footed wide players. To the point nobody cares that Olise didn’t choose England. With Saka, Palmer, Bowen even Foden England are spoilt for Choice. Then you have Mbeumo, Amad and Salah. It’s a lot weaker with the right footed wide players. Diaz and Gakpo might be the best in the league which is a big drop off from prime Mane, Sterling, Son and Rashford days. Gordon might legit be top 5. Martinelli is poo. Rashford is poo now. All the city wingers are poo. Son isn’t at the same level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Think the inverse is true. there’s an array of top class left footed wide players. To the point nobody cares that Olise didn’t choose England. With Saka, Palmer, Bowen even Foden England are spoilt for Choice. Then you have Mbeumo, Amad and Salah. It’s a lot weaker with the right footed wide players. Diaz and Gakpo might be the best in the league which is a big drop off from prime Mane, Sterling, Son and Rashford days. Gordon might legit be top 5. Martinelli is poo. Rashford is poo now. All the city wingers are poo. Son isn’t at the same level. Gordon is excellent as is Martinelli. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 10 minutes ago, Rod said: Gordon is excellent as is Martinelli. Martinelli’s a couple levels below Saka. Gordon’s a couple levels below Palmer. Any Liverpool LW is a level below Salah. Bowen vs Son is close. Mbeumo over any City winger. Olise over Eze. Amad over Rashford and Garnacho this season. I like Gordon more than Martinelli. I said it early last season that Gordon would outscore Martinelli. Head down dribbler. I also had Barnes out scoring Rashford this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 Cant see anyone paying 50m for Dibling in the summer - especially if Soton goes down. 25-35 would be more likely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 Did a Quick Look and Arsenal fans seem to rate Martinelli less than I do. They want him out. Arsenal fans seem to have a general frustration at a lack of ballers. Their reminiscing about the Wilshere, Nasri and Fabregas era top ballers tbf but just funny to me as that’s like the 5th best Arsenal side of my lifetime Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 The slow build up and progression forward that then allows for defences to settle into low blocks causes wingers that aren't top notch to really suffer. The likes of Martinelli, Doku and Savio are all struggling due to the attacking approach at Arsenal and Man City. Stick any of those in our side and they would all look very different. Even the likes of Murphy and Almiron have had their moments in our setup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, BergenMagpie said: Cant see anyone paying 50m for Dibling in the summer - especially if Soton goes down. 25-35 would be more likely Do they have PSR issues? Or is his contract up? Dibling could earn them that money getting them back up next season. Why would they sell him for less than they sold Tino? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 1 minute ago, KaKa said: The slow build up and progression forward that then allows for defences to settle into low blocks causes wingers that aren't top notch to really suffer. The likes of Martinelli, Doku and Savio are all struggling due to the attacking approach at Arsenal and Man City. Stick any of those in our side and they would all look very different. Even the likes of Murphy and Almiron have had their moments in our setup. Agreed. But likewise they are inferior to the Saka’s and Mahrez’s. Their ability just isn’t there. It’s that gap between Gordon and Isak. If Gordon and Martinelli are excellent, what is Isak? Their movement isn’t that good either. Sterling was excellent and getting into tap in positions against a low block. I prefer Gordon’s tenacity and box instincts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Agreed. But likewise they are inferior to the Saka’s and Mahrez’s. Their ability just isn’t there. It’s that gap between Gordon and Isak. If Gordon and Martinelli are excellent, what is Isak? Their movement isn’t that good either. Sterling was excellent and getting into tap in positions against a low block. I prefer Gordon’s tenacity and box instincts. Yup. Saka and Mahrez are top tier and are the sort that work best for Arteta and Pep. They are great in tight spaces and are precision finishers and passes/crossers. Sterling was also great at Man City due to his movement off the ball. I think it's quite difficult finding players that will perform in that setup. Salah and Palmer would. Not sure if Mbeumo and Bowen would though. Equally the guys struggling for them at the moment, Martinelli, Doku and Savio would likely look very good playing out wide at Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 13 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Do they have PSR issues? Or is his contract up? Dibling could earn them that money getting them back up next season. Why would they sell him for less than they sold Tino? They probably don't, his contract isn't up and he could, but that wasn't my point. I think he's too young and raw (only played 17 games at top level with only 1 goal) for anyone to pay such a "finished article" amount of money for him. Also, he'd might request a transfer if they go down. 50m would be a crazy gamble Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 I wonder if Longstaff might go in January now that we have Miley? It would also make sense PSR wise. I don’t see Trippier going next month as we need his experience for the league. I think Barnes will probably go in the summer to get more football. A new RW and R CB next month like the Lens player would be the dream but I’d take a RW as a priority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_once_removed Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 33 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: I wonder if Longstaff might go in January now that we have Miley? It would also make sense PSR wise. I don’t see Trippier going next month as we need his experience for the league. I think Barnes will probably go in the summer to get more football. A new RW and R CB next month like the Lens player would be the dream but I’d take a RW as a priority. In terms of minutes on the field perhaps, but I think as Miley is under 21 he doesn't count towards squad numbers so he also doesn't count towards the homegrown rule. So of we sold Longstaff in January it might have knock on effects on who we could register. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 Also if Longstaff or Willock (or any other central midfield player) is sold for PSR reasons we’d then have to go out and bring somebody else in, as we can’t have only five players for 3 positions and afaik nobody from the U21’s is ready to step up like Miley was last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 I think we can get away with 5 for those positions for the rest of this season. Hall can play there if we need him to in an emergency as well. Wouldn’t be surprised if Longstaff leaves in January now. Howe seems keen to get Miley some game time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 8 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Did a Quick Look and Arsenal fans seem to rate Martinelli less than I do. They want him out. Arsenal fans seem to have a general frustration at a lack of ballers. Their reminiscing about the Wilshere, Nasri and Fabregas era top ballers tbf but just funny to me as that’s like the 5th best Arsenal side of my lifetime They'll be turning on Arteta soon, I'd have thought. Spent a shit ton of money to win one FA Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 8 hours ago, BergenMagpie said: They probably don't, his contract isn't up and he could, but that wasn't my point. I think he's too young and raw (only played 17 games at top level with only 1 goal) for anyone to pay such a "finished article" amount of money for him. Also, he'd might request a transfer if they go down. 50m would be a crazy gamble No-one is signing Dibling for his goal output, they’re signing for him for his level of composure, technical ability and footballing IQ at such a young age. The skill set you dream of working with to mould into the player you want whilst still learning. We spent £30m on Lewis Hall after 8 prem games, so Dibling for more is fair value since attackers usually carry more weight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 5 minutes ago, Smal said: Wouldn’t be surprised if Longstaff leaves in January now. Howe seems keen to get Miley some game time. Wonder if we’d be open to a deal to a championship side who have a strong chance of going up. Like Leeds on loan with obligation to buy if they go up for £20m. Feels that would open up potential list of clubs to buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 1 minute ago, Sibierski said: Wonder if we’d be open to a deal to a championship side who have a strong chance of going up. Like Leeds on loan with obligation to buy if they go up for £20m. Feels that would open up potential list of clubs to buy. Dunno, think there’ll be plenty of Prem teams who will value a player like him. Would improve most of the bottom half teams like Southampton Leicester, Man U etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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