ExiledGeordie Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Doesn’t the 3 year (105m limit) finish this June or whatever? From my understanding we should have a lot more room for spending in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 17 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said: Should we really be clearing out the likes of Targett, Kelly and Longstaff? Unless we're brining in direct replacements who improve on these, we need these squad players for cover and early round cup games. It's not like our squad is well padded out. Id keep Targett currently as backup LB. If they got a proper offer for Kelly this window I think they let him go. We have 2 left sided CBs and Krafth can fill in at right CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: Doesn’t the 3 year (105m limit) finish this June or whatever? From my understanding we should have a lot more room for spending in the summer. I thought any additional spending risks breaching the new 70% squad cost rule? So incomings must be funded by outgoings until we grow revenue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag3.14 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 11 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: Doesn’t the 3 year (105m limit) finish this June or whatever? From my understanding we should have a lot more room for spending in the summer. Deloitte's have us estimated at 68% wages to revenue currently, new scheme caps (if we qualify for Europe) at 70% but has to include amortisation costs and agent fees minus allowables & player sales. Unless we get another significant jump in our revenue we could be worse off under the new scheme Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Cool, cool, cool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunk Moreland Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Cool, cool, cool. Man City did us out of three CBs in one window? Sickna that. At least it bodes well for our scouting I suppose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 This isn't a criticism but I wonder if we're leaking players we would've liked to have gone for to stave off criticism of us doing nothing this January and ram home the PSR issue. There's still plenty of people who don't get it and will assume the club staff are just taking the piss unless there are concrete signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Did we just think every other club would just wait for us to do our thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, Alberto2005 said: Did we just think every other club would just wait for us to do our thing? I highly doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Main conversation should be squad cost rules now surely? If and when our 3 year rolling PSR period improves, squad cost limits means we either have to grow revenue or sell players before we bring anyone in. Profit and losses are irrelevant. And that assumes pay for our purples remains static. If Isak, Bruno and Tonali demand an extra 200K per week between them, we almost certainly can't afford to grow the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 9 minutes ago, Bunk Moreland said: Man City did us out of three CBs in one window? Sickna that. At least it bodes well for our scouting I suppose Except it means we are effectively scouting for Man City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottlob Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 21 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Cool, cool, cool. Hey look everybody! I just walked into the door again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 We tried…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 How can PSR block a bid? We know how much we can spend, it's not like we file off a £30m bid for a player and have to wait for PSR approval. Like @80 says it sounds like we're trying to highlight how preposterous the rules are. Only a few clubs are allowed to sign players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said: How can PSR block a bid? We know how much we can spend, it's not like we file off a £30m bid for a player and have to wait for PSR approval. Like @80 says it sounds like we're trying to highlight how preposterous the rules are. Only a few clubs are allowed to sign players. Well we didn't know how much we could spend a month ago. If we had sold Kelly, Targett or a purple we would have more flexibility. You don't just start lining up targets after a sale - you have to be ready to pull the trigger once you have PSR wriggle room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) Sorry, I don’t believe it. We have the Guehi budget, or we can structure a deferred deal like the Hall one if we want to. We aren’t THAT close to the ceiling, even unable to offer 30m for a position we badly need reinforcement. These stories don’t feel right to me. I hope it’s just bollocks from lazy journalism. If that’s genuinely sourced from the club then it does smell like bullshit expectation managmenet Edited January 28 by Zero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, Zero said: If that’s genuinely sourced from the club then it does smell like bullshit expectation managmenet Not really. Word is (and was back in the Summer) that signing Guehi would have meant a big departure at some point before the June 30th 2025 PSR deadline. We didn't get Guehi so we will never know, but if we had it could have left us more vunerable to bids for Isak, Bruno, Tonali, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 5 minutes ago, Zero said: Sorry, I don’t believe it. We have the Guehi budget, or we can structure a deferred deal like the Hall one if we want to. We aren’t THAT close to the ceiling, even unable to offer 30m for a position we badly need reinforcement. These stories don’t feel right to me. I hope it’s just bollocks from lazy journalism. If that’s genuinely sourced from the club then it does smell like bullshit expectation managmenet Its NUFCBlog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE690 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 15 minutes ago, jonny1403 said: Well we didn't know how much we could spend a month ago. If we had sold Kelly, Targett or a purple we would have more flexibility. You don't just start lining up targets after a sale - you have to be ready to pull the trigger once you have PSR wriggle room. But either the players are worth it or they aren't, there's no reason to wait on signing a CB, we offered over £50m for Guehi. The issue is that teams like Man City and Chelsea are just allowed to do what they like even when they're being taken to court apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 4 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: Not really. Word is (and was back in the Summer) that signing Guehi would have meant a big departure at some point before the June 30th 2025 PSR deadline. We didn't get Guehi so we will never know, but if we had it could have left us more vunerable to bids for Isak, Bruno, Tonali, etc. that alone deserves sacking. Guehi in exchange of Isak/Gordon/Bruno? What kinda suicidal plan is that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 6 minutes ago, Zero said: Sorry, I don’t believe it. We have the Guehi budget, or we can structure a deferred deal like the Hall one if we want to. We aren’t THAT close to the ceiling, even unable to offer 30m for a position we badly need reinforcement. These stories don’t feel right to me. I hope it’s just bollocks from lazy journalism. If that’s genuinely sourced from the club then it does smell like bullshit expectation managmenet What you have to ask yourself is, do you think someone like this Brazilian kid would have enough of an immediate impact between now and the end of the season to justify weakening our summer position in return for that impact? Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn’t - I’d be inclined to lean towards the latter - so they decided not to pull the trigger. However, I don’t doubt if something happened to Isak, or someone we felt confident would have an immediate impact became available, we could slap £30m down tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: But either the players are worth it or they aren't, there's no reason to wait on signing a CB, we offered over £50m for Guehi. The issue is that teams like Man City and Chelsea are just allowed to do what they like even when they're being taken to court apparently. And after failed/played by CP multiple times, we tried desperate enquiries re Tapsoba and Elanga. No fucking way we can’t structure a deal for that Brazilian CB if we wanted to. It’s not like the club only allows to negotiate and submit bid after 1 Jan. Mitchell can do it at Sep Oct Nov and Dec if he wanted to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 10 minutes ago, 54 said: Its NUFCBlog They are taking it from the Douglas article yesterday I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SteV said: What you have to ask yourself is, do you think someone like this Brazilian kid would have enough of an immediate impact between now and the end of the season to justify weakening our summer position in return for that impact? Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn’t - I’d be inclined to lean towards the latter - so they decided not to pull the trigger. However, I don’t doubt if something happened to Isak, or someone we felt confident would have an immediate impact became available, we could slap £30m down tomorrow. That’s fine, that’s actually the narrative for the last summer: the club only wants to sign someone good enough for starting eleven and lift the team to the next level, hence “only EPL established” expensive purchases. Not the bullshit from the nufcblog “eh the club in fact wanted to complete the deal for the Brazilian CB but sorry due to PSR the club is blocked from doing so, and therefore the club wants to do it in Jan instead but unfortunately being hijacked by Man City, so sorry about that” fucking bullshit Edited January 28 by Zero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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