alexf Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: Four windows without signing a first team is ridiculous like. Fuck PSR like. Sham system. is this one of those things that just keeps going up each time someone says it? So now I should go "5 windows now without a 1st teamer!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, alexf said: is this one of those things that just keeps going up each time someone says it? So now I should go "5 windows now without a 1st teamer!" Exponentially grows with each post like Kelly and Targetts wages Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, janpawel said: Yeah I just checked and the CL total money is roughly around €2.2B, Europa around €500M and Conference €250M It's insane how much the CL helps Financially, no wonder Villa are making all these signings this window Villa had to sell Duran for £60m+ to be able to make the signings. Would you want us to sell Isak? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Doctor Zaius said: Four windows without signing a first team is ridiculous like. Fuck PSR like. Sham system. It's 3 windows isn't it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 hours ago, Dokko said: I wonder if the club thought the psr model would be bust by now, and we'd be able to invest? Either that or we banked on Bruno leaving in the summer for £100m. Wonder if the still think the model is on its last legs and just doing it's best to keep it's main players and at any cost. If not, we're selling in the summer. Most likely isak. My guess is that they thought the "related party deals" thing would be defeated. Which it kind of was by City but has seemingly still been resurrected with pundits suggesting its necessary "because Newcastle". There are also still loopholes in PSR, like sell yourself a hotel or a women's team, or use the multiclub model. Maybe thats what is driving the Santos thing. Whatever all the specifics are, I would readily forgive our owners for buying the club without realizing how much resistance there would be to them putting money in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Just now, El Prontonise said: It's 3 windows isn't it. It is yeah. Point still stands though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 24 minutes ago, TRon said: Villa had to sell Duran for £60m+ to be able to make the signings. Would you want us to sell Isak? What? I'm not saying that or anything about us, I'm just saying they are seriously going for it with their singings / targets this month, whilst they are still within distance of CL in the league and entering the knockouts in the CL. Their business seems strange when you consider their FFP position / apparent wages / revenue percentage, but they clearly think it's worth the gamble for CL money and glory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, janpawel said: Yeah I just checked and the CL total money is roughly around €2.2B, Europa around €500M and Conference €250M It's insane how much the CL helps Financially, no wonder Villa are making all these signings this window Why the big clubs keep pushing for more reforms that gives them added protection to get into UCL, because even if they’re shit in the league they can keep the money coming to maintain gap over rest long term. With likes of Man Utd / Milan / Juve currently not looking like qualifying, won’t be surprise if the push for next UCL reform is for clubs who don’t qualify via league/holders, qualify based on historic co-efficient, so those sides are protected to keep getting that UCL money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 7 windows without a first team signing is disgraceful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 39 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: It's 3 windows isn't it. Depends when you want to class us getting Hall. As we actually paid for him in the most recent summer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 23 minutes ago, janpawel said: What? I'm not saying that or anything about us, I'm just saying they are seriously going for it with their singings / targets this month, whilst they are still within distance of CL in the league and entering the knockouts in the CL. Their business seems strange when you consider their FFP position / apparent wages / revenue percentage, but they clearly think it's worth the gamble for CL money and glory Did you miss the part about them selling Jhon Duran? He was a key player for them, if they sold him, obviously they would have to replace him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 6 minutes ago, TRon said: Did you miss the part about them selling Jhon Duran? He was a key player for them, if they sold him, obviously they would have to replace him. Did you miss the part where they signed Malen, Rashford, Asensio (I think?) and tried to sign Felix? Looking at Disasi etc Seems very much like they're bolstering their attack ahead of an impressive CL campaign and whilst they still have a chance to make top 5 in the league. Not just replacing Duran, and he wasn't anywhere near as key for them as Isak is to us, since you mentioned Isak previously Your first reply suggests you think I was comparing their approach this window to ours, and that for us to do similar we'd need to sell Isak. I made no comparison at all to us. I just said fair to them making a right go of it Having said that, I do wish there was 1 decent attacking loan option we could have made from abroad somewhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Villa's business is very punty. Relatively risk-free short terms deals with a high upside. It makes a lot of sense in their position, with the demands of the Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Genuinely forgot the deadline was today. Hope the next one isn't such a non-event. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 hours ago, KaKa said: Yeah, might as well get Mike Ashley back in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 12 minutes ago, janpawel said: Did you miss the part where they signed Malen, Rashford, Asensio (I think?) and tried to sign Felix? Looking at Disasi etc Seems very much like they're bolstering their attack ahead of an impressive CL campaign and whilst they still have a chance to make top 5 in the league. Not just replacing Duran, and he wasn't anywhere near as key for them as Isak is to us, since you mentioned Isak previously Your first reply suggests you think I was comparing their approach this window to ours, and that for us to do similar we'd need to sell Isak. I made no comparison at all to us. I just said fair to them making a right go of it Having said that, I do wish there was 1 decent attacking loan option we could have made from abroad somewhere that’s how FFP works though, the fact that they sold Duran and Douglas Luiz for huge sums has allowed them to spend on multiple players, just like we would be able to if we sold Isak, Gordon or Bruno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, TRon said: Villa had to sell Duran for £60m+ to be able to make the signings. Would you want us to sell Isak? Isak's not sat on our bench most weeks though is he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) 3 hours ago, KaKa said: Yeah, might as well get Mike Ashley back in. Under Ashley, Isak, Bruno, Gordon, Tonali, Botman, Hall, Tino - all be sold Edit: scratch that we wouldn't have had them in the first place. btw I know that's not what you meant Edited February 3 by duo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, duo said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, duo said: Under Ashley, Isak, Bruno, Gordon, Tonali, Botman, Hall, Tino - all be sold Edit: scratch that we wouldn't have had them in the first place. btw I know that's not what you meant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 What an absolute knee slapper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) Mike Ashley wasn't that bad to be fair. At least we always passed PSR without needing sales! Edited February 3 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steve Charlton Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Teletext was more exciting than this in the 90s. Ibrahim Ba Deal Imminent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, KaKa said: Mike Ashley wasn't that bad to be fair. At least we always passed PSR without needing sales! Ahead of the curve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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