JT24 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, Chris_R said: Pope is miles better than Dubravka. At least he's miles better as a goalkeeper, which is the main metric I judge my goalkeepers by. If you want the best footballer in goal, put Tonali or Bruno there. Yes, being competent with your kicking is a good bonus but it's getting massively overplayed by every team right now and the pendulum needs to swing back a bit the other way. Pope is the better goalkeeper, he should be ahead of Dubravka. I hold both in a similar regard now. Both are good, have their strengths but also fully expect a clanger now and then. Ready to upgrade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) Pope is significantly better like. We’ve got into this weird position because he’s been injured and Dubs has done OK. But Pope is in an entirely different bracket IMO. I am biased against Dubs because of the Man Utd thing TBF. Edited February 20 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 This season Dubs has been better (quite significantly imo) and has rightly kept his place, if we're picking them on their peak, Pope is better, though Prime Dubs under Rafa runs him close imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 35 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Neither are good enough for us. One because he's not a very good footballer and the other because he's not a very good goalkeeper. Neither should be our number 1 keeper, but either of them could be number 2. Pope is a decent keeper like, might not be elite level, but most Premier clubs would be glad to have him. While I'm sure we'd like a top class keeper who can play the ball out better, I just don't think we'll spend the money it will take. We'll be prioritising other positions. Maybe if we can't land the RW or CB we might use it to buy a keeper instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Dubs is only signing a contract so we can get a fee from Saudi in the summer. Probably the same terms as January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 5 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: Dubs is only signing a contract so we can get a fee from Saudi in the summer. Probably the same terms as January. We weren’t getting a fee for him in January though, unless you mean same terms for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) Hope reporting that we're finally signing Trafford this summer. "James Trafford’s proposed move to Newcastle is now expected to be completed without any hitches this summer. The Burnley goalkeeper had agreed to join last August only for the deal not to happen, much to the surprise and disappointment of some of those involved. However, sources have expressed extreme confidence this week of the transfer going through at the end of this season, with Trafford still set on St James’ Park. The 22-year-old is in the midst of an astonishing 11-match run without conceding a goal, moving beyond 1,000 minutes since he was last beaten. That run included a pair of penalty saves during a goalless draw with Sunderland last month, ingratiating himself with Newcastle supporters who are aware of their club’s interest in the Cumbrian. One complicating factor that had been mentioned was Manchester City’s buy-back clause. They sold the player to Burnley for £19million two years ago and it is thought a fee in excess of £40m was included as an option to re-sign him. But sources have played down the possibility of that being an issue and say all roads still lead to Tyneside, regardless of whether Burnley win promotion. They are currently third in the Championship table and five points behind second-placed Sheffield United. The fee discussed last summer was £16m and, while it will take more than that this time around, Trafford has only two years to run on his contract. Newcastle scouts have continued to watch the England Under-21 star extensively this season and his ball-playing attributes are seen as key to the team’s long-term evolution." Edited February 20 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Would be the least surprising transfer ever given the consistent noise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Hope reporting that we're finally signing Trafford this summer. "James Trafford’s proposed move to Newcastle is now expected to be completed without any hitches this summer. The Burnley goalkeeper had agreed to join last August only for the deal not to happen, much to the surprise and disappointment of some of those involved. However, sources have expressed extreme confidence this week of the transfer going through at the end of this season, with Trafford still set on St James’ Park. The 22-year-old is in the midst of an astonishing 11-match run without conceding a goal, moving beyond 1,000 minutes since he was last beaten. That run included a pair of penalty saves during a goalless draw with Sunderland last month, ingratiating himself with Newcastle supporters who are aware of their club’s interest in the Cumbrian. One complicating factor that had been mentioned was Manchester City’s buy-back clause. They sold the player to Burnley for £19million two years ago and it is thought a fee in excess of £40m was included as an option to re-sign him. But sources have played down the possibility of that being an issue and say all roads still lead to Tyneside, regardless of whether Burnley win promotion. They are currently third in the Championship table and five points behind second-placed Sheffield United. The fee discussed last summer was £16m and, while it will take more than that this time around, Trafford has only two years to run on his contract. Newcastle scouts have continued to watch the England Under-21 star extensively this season and his ball-playing attributes are seen as key to the team’s long-term evolution." Anything less than 20m and we are laughing all the way to the Premier League title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Would certainly be in our interest for Burnley not to get promoted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 So we have the Greek, Pope, Dubravka, and now Trafford? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 5 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Hope reporting that we're finally signing Trafford this summer. "James Trafford’s proposed move to Newcastle is now expected to be completed without any hitches this summer. The Burnley goalkeeper had agreed to join last August only for the deal not to happen, much to the surprise and disappointment of some of those involved. However, sources have expressed extreme confidence this week of the transfer going through at the end of this season, with Trafford still set on St James’ Park. The 22-year-old is in the midst of an astonishing 11-match run without conceding a goal, moving beyond 1,000 minutes since he was last beaten. That run included a pair of penalty saves during a goalless draw with Sunderland last month, ingratiating himself with Newcastle supporters who are aware of their club’s interest in the Cumbrian. One complicating factor that had been mentioned was Manchester City’s buy-back clause. They sold the player to Burnley for £19million two years ago and it is thought a fee in excess of £40m was included as an option to re-sign him. But sources have played down the possibility of that being an issue and say all roads still lead to Tyneside, regardless of whether Burnley win promotion. They are currently third in the Championship table and five points behind second-placed Sheffield United. The fee discussed last summer was £16m and, while it will take more than that this time around, Trafford has only two years to run on his contract. Newcastle scouts have continued to watch the England Under-21 star extensively this season and his ball-playing attributes are seen as key to the team’s long-term evolution." Would assume we are in a decent position to spend if we are willing to spend a good amount on a keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, Menace said: So we have the Greek, Pope, Dubravka, and now Trafford? I'd wager the Greek lad and one of Pope or Dubravka will be leaving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Man City having an option on him is still a bit of a wildcard. You'd think they'd look at more of a "sure thing" signing anyway but with Ederson and Ortega both looking ropey means we could do with having this tied up sharp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Sounds a bit of a gentleman’s agreement on Trafford. Burnley to keep him this season to help their promotion bid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, Kilcline said: Man City having an option on him is still a bit of a wildcard. You'd think they'd look at more of a "sure thing" signing anyway but with Ederson and Ortega both looking ropey means we could do with having this tied up sharp I don't think City are in a rush to sign him back like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 7 minutes ago, Menace said: So we have the Greek, Pope, Dubravka, and now Trafford? You forgot Ruddy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 I can't think of many promoted teams who lose their best/better players immediately after getting promotion unless they're in dire financial situation like Leciester (Dewsbury Hall) and Sheff Utd (Ndiaye) Might be misremembering Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, TRon said: You forgot Ruddy. Ruddy and Gillespie don’t count. Cannon fodder for training purposes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexred Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Don't like like Trafford at all. He's Dracula. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Man City will aim higher than Trafford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 35 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: Man City will aim higher than Trafford. If they have any sense they'll wait until he's 38 just for the Man City sign Old Trafford headlines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 20 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: Bring him home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: I think another CM is key. Not as key as RW and CB so I’m not confident we will target one. I didnt mean a purple CM, but someone who rotates better with Joelinton/injury/quality. Edwards said we are looking for players in almost every position, but yes RW and CB are the key ones (tired of writing that ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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