Kid Icarus Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 Just now, Vinny Green Balls said: I honestly feel you, man. It has been a shit show up to this point. But I do have some not so unfounded optimism because of who is at the helm. Could well be like 23/24 or worse, but Howe is capable of pulling off miracles. If he starts getting fed up, then that’s another story. I think we're already past the point of Howe being fed up with this shit tbh, just based on what a couple of local journos have said off the record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: I think we're already past the point of Howe being fed up with this shit tbh, just based on what a couple of local journos have said off the record. Who has said what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 10 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Encouraging but also how am I going to make it to the end? Hardly encouraging like. 5 weeks to sign 3 minimum when we’ve made 1 in the last two years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Fak said: Who has said what? A couple of local journos off the record. To someone I know, who told me. "Chaos behind the scenes", "Howe is raging" Edited July 28, 2025 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 2 minutes ago, Stuy_O said: Hardly encouraging like. 5 weeks to sign 3 minimum when we’ve made 1 in the last two years. Well yeah but I'm assuming that this pure time logic is not what's going to decide it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: I really think we're completely sleepwalking on a major CB crisis and the succession planning is awful there. Botman cannot be relied upon physically. Burn and Schar are 33 and probably have one season left in them. Krafth and Lascelles also past 30 and are not up to it. We need 2 CB signings in the next 12 months. If you can't get a 'top' target then you need to get one from a shelf down anyway and go for more of a punt on potential because we're going to need more anyway very soon. Same with CM to be honest. Willock has offered nothing for 2 years and is lacking durability to say the very least if the past is to be used as a predictive measure. You lose him and you're left with Miley to support an entire midfield three in a potentially 60+ game season. Insane. I'd make the case that a new CM is as important, if not more than a CB given the demands of that position and increased likelihood of injury/fatigue. Edited July 28, 2025 by Infinitely Content Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: A couple of local journos off the record. To someone I know, who told me. "Chaos behind the scenes", "Howe is raging" Be interesting to find out what he thinks could/should have been done differently. Higher fees, wages etc and what his input was ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 Just now, madras said: Be interesting to find out what he thinks could/should have been done differently. Higher fees, wages etc and what his input was ? I’d presume actually having employees in place so he doesn’t have to moonlight with three hats on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon1984 Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 I think the club wanted to have a real go at the CL and this is reflected in the players we were going for (and why we didn’t go for ‘diamonds in the rough’, which take time to polish). But PSR has woven its ‘magic’ and done exactly what it was designed to do. The result is that we will probably need to lower our expectations this season and sign some of these lower quality players with potential to have the necessary numbers to get through the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 6 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Well yeah but I'm assuming that this pure time logic is not what's going to decide it Lets hope we get the players in. The club has achieved great things since the takeover but it’s not unfair to point out the shortcomings. Sesko, Wissa and a CB would resurrect the window and the squad would look very good. But I question our approach, scouting (or lack of trust in scouting), and the lack of an alternative voice to the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 1 hour ago, JP said: Are you genuinely confident we'll get those 4/5 in? Confidence level varies, 100% we’ll have two strikers (as well as Osula, Neave etc). If I had to pick a number then, 70% certain we’ll add CB, CM, and GK to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 2 minutes ago, Nucasol said: I’d presume actually having employees in place so he doesn’t have to moonlight with three hats on. Aren't Nickson and Andy doing that. As Eddie is part of the transfer committee (possibly the largest voice on it) you'd guess he'd be aware of the parameters on each deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 1 minute ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Confidence level varies, 100% we’ll have two strikers (as well as Osula, Neave etc). If I had to pick a number then, 70% certain we’ll add CB, CM, and GK to that. I think the keeper is less likely, ours number 1 target has gone so we'll stick with Pope/Dubravka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 Do other clubs have a super negotiator who can sweet talk clubs into knocking 20% off and players into accepting 100kpw less ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 3 minutes ago, Toon1984 said: I think the club wanted to have a real go at the CL and this is reflected in the players we were going for (and why we didn’t go for ‘diamonds in the rough’, which take time to polish). But PSR has woven its ‘magic’ and done exactly what it was designed to do. The result is that we will probably need to lower our expectations this season and sign some of these lower quality players with potential to have the necessary numbers to get through the season. I agree can't knock them for trying but we dont seem to be dynamic or pivot quick enough this may well be down to what's happened at executive level but still won't help understanding why things have gone wrong if it still leaves it as a poor window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 Just now, madras said: Aren't Nickson and Andy doing that. As Eddie is part of the transfer committee (possibly the largest voice on it) you'd guess he'd be aware of the parameters on each deal. But Nickson and Andy Howe aren’t the right skill set to be doing that, apologies that’s the point I’m trying to make. Eddie should be left to do what he does best without having to deal with an underpowered recruitment and negotiation team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 (edited) Nothing’s happening because there’s no one making anything happen. Edited July 28, 2025 by Haz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 3 minutes ago, madras said: Do other clubs have a super negotiator who can sweet talk clubs into knocking 20% off and players into accepting 100kpw less ? I think the kids call it aura. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 11 minutes ago, madras said: Be interesting to find out what he thinks could/should have been done differently. Higher fees, wages etc and what his input was ? Fuck all. From his own words there's a very small pool of players we are interested in, if the cartel clubs are also chasing them, then it's living in cloud cuckoo land to expect to land those players on less wages and with less pull than the glamour clubs. Only way to do it is to blow them out of the water by kicking PSR to the curb. Is that realistic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon1984 Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 1 minute ago, nufcjmc said: I agree can't knock them for trying but we dont seem to be dynamic or pivot quick enough this may well be down to what's happened at executive level but still won't help understanding why things have gone wrong if it still leaves it as a poor window. It seems we target a group of players then if they don’t sign then it’s back to square one. I’d love to know how far Mitchell got in talking to prospective signings’ agents and developing an in depth transfer plan. Not far by the looks of it. If, as I suspect, there is an underlying reluctance for other PL teams to do business with us, we really need to look abroad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 6 minutes ago, Nucasol said: But Nickson and Andy Howe aren’t the right skill set to be doing that, apologies that’s the point I’m trying to make. Eddie should be left to do what he does best without having to deal with an underpowered recruitment and negotiation team. How do you know that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 8 minutes ago, madras said: Do other clubs have a super negotiator who can sweet talk clubs into knocking 20% off and players into accepting 100kpw less ? Erm, no they have more money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 1 minute ago, macphisto said: How do you know that? Because it isn't there job role? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 1 minute ago, macphisto said: How do you know that? I think the evidence so far is pretty damning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted July 28, 2025 Share Posted July 28, 2025 2 minutes ago, macphisto said: How do you know that? It’s not difficult to reach that conclusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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