AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 He's embarrassed about pretending to be French. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 7 minutes ago, jigen said: Howe knows only PL player. And he want to buy only PL players. A mistake when a manager make the market. Your fortune was the 2022 when you bought abroad. Since Howe has been here, the only first team players we've signed from other clubs in this country, who remain at the club, are: Gordon Burn Barnes Pope Targett Livramento Hall You could argue one of those signings has been a failure - Targett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Had a quick look at Brentford forum and they masively rate Mbeumo tbf, think he's improving still and could be top 4 quality, even if he can be a bit wasteful in front of goal. Though as fans we can overrate our own players a bit so there's that to take into account. He has 3 years left on his contract so I can't see him being cheap, particularly if they lose Toney this window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, duo said: Is it not called ambition? It's being a wanker, for me. Ask yourself - if one of our players came out tomorrow and said 'I really want to play for a big club', would your first instinct be to think 'aye, right on mate'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 (edited) 12 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: It's being a wanker, for me. Ask yourself - if one of our players came out tomorrow and said 'I really want to play for a big club', would your first instinct be to think 'aye, right on mate'? As someone who used to work in Brentford, if he came out and said his dream was to continue living and working there as long as possible I'd find it even more sus tbh! Edited May 31 by Checko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 5 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: It's being a wanker, for me. Ask yourself - if one of our players came out tomorrow and said 'I really want to play for a big club', would your first instinct be to think 'aye, right on mate'? Exactly. Have ambition by all means but don’t need to be disrespectful by projecting it. Don’t need to broadcast it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Really like Mbuemo. Top player with end product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 33 minutes ago, jigen said: Howe knows only PL player. And he want to buy only PL players. A mistake when a manager make the market. Your fortune was the 2022 when you bought abroad. 95% of your posts are you saying we've wasted money at various points. Bore off, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 I think Olise became a pipe dream in the last couple months of the season. I’d also be surprised if we can afford anyone in that price range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 2 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: I think Olise became a pipe dream in the last couple months of the season. I’d also be surprised if we can afford anyone in that price range. He’s got a clause so I don’t think it’s a question of affordability, but I do think his recent form has increased the demand in him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 7 minutes ago, r0cafella said: He’s got a clause so I don’t think it’s a question of affordability, but I do think his recent form has increased the demand in him. Isn’t the clause like £60m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eveready Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Without Europe, the focus should be on getting the best upgrades to our strongest starting 11 (after the depth signing at CB to cover Botman & Lacelles' injuries). I quite like Mbuemo, but I think if we signed him he would already be the weakest player in our starting front 6. In my opinion, it would counter-productive to spend a significant fee on a player who in 6-12 months we immediately be looking to upgrade on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Just now, timeEd32 said: Isn’t the clause like £60m? I’m not sure but even if it is, it’s less than Isak. I could be wrong but I think we do gain some FFP space after 1/7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 44 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: It's being a wanker, for me. Ask yourself - if one of our players came out tomorrow and said 'I really want to play for a big club', would your first instinct be to think 'aye, right on mate'? No disrespect to Brentford but you can't hold it against a player wanting to play for a more established club. Hasn't Bruno just done that albeit not verbally by putting in a release clause into his contract? He has clearly opened to door to the likes of Man City/Real Madrid. And if they came in I couldn't blame him for wanting to go. We are just not at that level yet, much like Brentford aren't at ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 25 minutes ago, duo said: No disrespect to Brentford but you can't hold it against a player wanting to play for a more established club. Hasn't Bruno just done that albeit not verbally by putting in a release clause into his contract? He has clearly opened to door to the likes of Man City/Real Madrid. And if they came in I couldn't blame him for wanting to go. We are just not at that level yet, much like Brentford aren't at ours. A bit like us with Ashworth then…We have to pay what Brentford want, not just because the player wants to leave. He signed a contract and should honour it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 (edited) This is what he said: Quote I have spent five years at Brentford, at a club that has allowed me to grow and pass a milestone but yes, I would like to play in the biggest competitions, at the best clubs. It is tantalising to see some big clubs interested in me. We will see. I don’t find that particularly disrespectful to Brentford. They are, objectively, not one of the “big/best” clubs nor are they taking part in the biggest competitions (and we all know which clubs and competitions he’s referring to), but he’s hardy slagging them off. He’s put in 5 solid seasons there, and I don’t think his commitment or work rate have ever been questioned. Edited May 31 by Deuce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 My thoughts have really swung on Mbuemo recently. From thinking an upgrade/ideal fit/swap for Almiron to like others have said maybe not actually that big a step forward and maybe too much more of the same. Would love some more footballing brains in that position and the team as a whole. Would a MGW be able to squeeze in our team in that spot and still bring the best out of him and us? Or would he be wasted and better of looking elsewhere. Not sure how feasible but really like the look of Dani Olmo or a player of his ilk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 47 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I’m not sure but even if it is, it’s less than Isak. I could be wrong but I think we do gain some FFP space after 1/7. By allowable losses I think we'll be in decent shape for this summer. But UEFA's cost control ratio drops to 70% for 2025/26 (which is assessed in the 2025 calendar year), so we'll have an eye on that as well. I've been a little pessimistic about our summer spend pending the money coming in/wages out for Ashworth, Miggy, Wilson, and maybe a surprise or two (Longstaff? Trippier? Anderson? Targett?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Mbuemo would fit our style of play perfectly - I've always been impressed when I've seen him play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 (edited) Mbuemo would be our starting lw rw (oops) and provide cover for striker too. Would be a good move. Edited May 31 by rebelrouser Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 He'd be our starting RW which would likely mean Barnes and Gordon would never start together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 3 minutes ago, Away Toon said: He'd be our starting RW which would likely mean Barnes and Gordon would never start together. I think the plan is to have is to have few "starters" so we can mix and match game by game. Especially in the forward positions where we press so much and sub quite a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 10 minutes ago, Away Toon said: He'd be our starting RW which would likely mean Barnes and Gordon would never start together. I could see us playing something like this occasionally Isak Barnes Gordon RW Bruno Tonali Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Just now, Jackie Broon said: I could see us playing something like this occasionally Isak Barnes Gordon RW Bruno Tonali Even playing a front three, having the other to bring off the bench, with our intensity, would be devastating. Remember when we had a normal Injury hit squad (2022/23) only Brentford made more subs and most of ours were forwards to maintain the intensity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Just now, madras said: Even playing a front three, having the other to bring off the bench, with our intensity, would be devastating. Remember when we had a normal Injury hit squad (2022/23) only Brentford made more subs and most of ours were forwards to maintain the intensity. Yeah, I think that was the plan for this season, to rotate the forwards so they could run themselves into the ground, and why the injuries hit us so hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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