KaKa Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 3 minutes ago, Pablo said: I just don’t think he is at the level of Bruno, Isak and Gordon, who are likely ambitious and able to play at a higher level. Would they wish to stick around if our major upgrade this summer is Mbuemo. A right winger that got 9 goals and 6 assists in 25 league games last season, and 9 goals and 8 assists in 37 league games the season before? I would imagine so, yes! Funny that you rate Gordon now, but based on your analysis of Mbeumo, I'm sure you didn't rate the signing at the time. And yet, here we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 I'm not against Mbuemo but surely with the constant noises around restricted spends, we can find some better value abroad? Seems steep to me at the prices quoted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 Just now, Pilko said: I'm not against Mbuemo but surely with the constant noises around restricted spends, we can find some better value abroad? Seems steep to me at the prices quoted. Aye, we probably need to take a couple more risks. Nickson clearly has an eye for a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 1 hour ago, Pablo said: I recall seeing Isak absolutely tear it up in one game at the Euros, with Gary Linekar absolutely gushing. I don’t ever remember seeing Bryan Mbuemo having that impact on any game. I see Mbuemo as a decent premier league player who will start in a mid to lower level team, not one to make the leap to the top. This isn’t fantasy football picking up a cheap player for 5m to score a few points as substitute when the first choice is missing a game. like I said originally if we sign him, I support him and want him to do well. I want my gut feeling to be wrong. However if he signs, I think we are collectively crying out for a new right winger inside 6 months as he is levels below the remainder of our first choice front six. Gordon Isak Mbuemo Joelinton Bruno Tonali if you all think he is that level, fair play. I see him as a a Ruel Fox. Well as others have asked how often have you seen him play? I’m also wondering how often you’ve watched us play as I can think of a few matches against us, where Mbuemo has run us ragged, the first hour of the game at their place last season for one. Ive said this before and I’ll reiterate it again, those making recruitment decisions at the club have generated enough good will that they know how to spot players that will elevate our first 11. With the exception of Wood, who was bought as much to weaken a rival as strengthen us (Although he still did do a job for us for those 12 months) I wouldn’t say they’ve bought badly at all. You could argue they might’ve prioritised the here and now rather than the future last summer, but it’s too early to call the wisdom of that currently. Basically, I’m saying those making recruitment decisions at the club, have proven more knowledgable than know-it-alls on internet forums (myself included), if they’ve identified Mbuemo and we sign him, I trust them enough to think he’s the best option that they can realistically obtain this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 43 minutes ago, KaKa said: Well Gordon is a star player for us. If you looked at his Everton numbers I'm sure you'll find they were nowhere near Mbeumo's. From your description off the Brentford forum, it reads a lot like Sadio Mane. Never the silkiest technically, and thetefore prone to some mishits and missed passes, but the work rate, physicality, pace and relentlessness leads to high production. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 37 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Aye, we probably need to take a couple more risks. Nickson clearly has an eye for a player. The problem is the prices I’ve seen quoted for up and coming wingers/wide forwards in the likes of Bakayoko, Soule, or Doue seem to be almost as high or at a similar level tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 just trust Eddie's judgement. if he rates mbuemo, then i want him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 16 minutes ago, huss9 said: just trust Eddie's judgement. if he rates mbuemo, then i want him. Gotta agree. And they’ll know what’s too much, FFP wise, more than we ever will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 (edited) 11 hours ago, cubaricho said: Gotta agree. And they’ll know what’s too much, FFP wise, more than we ever will. Too much of that sort of thinking and the footy section will be back to 3 or 4 posts a day. Edited June 4, 2024 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 11 minutes ago, madras said: Too much of that sort of thinking at the footy section will be back to 3 or 4 posts a day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 3 hours ago, Pilko said: I'm not against Mbuemo but surely with the constant noises around restricted spends, we can find some better value abroad? Seems steep to me at the prices quoted. Howe puts a lot of stock in having done it in the PL going from his own words. As you say though, much better value abroad. Isak, Bruno and Botman for a combined £130m or thereabouts is absolutely outrageous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 The advantage with Mbeumo is he's a 2 for 1. Starting RW and back up for Isak. £50m though, steep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 (edited) 10 hours ago, Pablo said: Mbeumo = Ruel Fox. Looking back a player I liked, but who was limited in where he could take us. Could also easily be a Mane type signing. Also, I'd happily take a Ruel Fox type again. Only three Newcastle players have scored 10 goals and 10 assists in the Premier League; Gordon, Cole and Fox. Edited June 4, 2024 by macphisto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 30-35 million for Mbeumo is fine. 50 million should get you a better player to be honest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 12 hours ago, KaKa said: Brentford are asking £50 million for Mbeumo. 24 years old, 18 goals and 15 assists in the Prem the last two seasons. Not too crazy. Can probably bring that down to £40 million with the rest in add ons. Some interesting quotes of his I stumbled on earlier today. Seems to have the kind of mindset that really fits into what we do. "I have qualities that I have not yet fully exploited," Mbeumo continued. "In the last action too, I must be even more killer, more decisive. I also know how important it is to work off the pitch. "I set up programs with a sports coach. I am following a virtual reality program that allows me to improve my cognitive abilities. You have to be ready for the future." I’d love to sign him. He works his socks off, is class and still has loads of headroom to improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 He feels like he could be a Jota from Wolves to Liverpool or Trossard from Brighton to Arsenal level signing. Probably a different sort of player but could definitely see him being good enough for a starting place at least for a year, then a good squad option afterwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 15 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: He feels like he could be a Jota from Wolves to Liverpool or Trossard from Brighton to Arsenal level signing. Probably a different sort of player but could definitely see him being good enough for a starting place at least for a year, then a good squad option afterwards. The fact he can cover RW and striker is key as well. Think he’ll be very good for us if it happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 Nothing new really, other than we need to sell before June 30th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 8 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Nothing new really, other than we need to sell before June 30th. Not sure who we could get money for before that deadline other than someone we really don’t want to flog. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 10 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Not sure who we could get money for before that deadline other than someone we really don’t want to flog. I'd imagine we'll be hawking players to Saudi pretty aggressively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 26 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Absolute none event of an article. More Waugh waffle without saying anything new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 Quote At goalkeeper, Arsenal’s Aaron Ramsdale and Valencia’s Giorgi Mamardashvili have been watched. However, Newcastle’s failure to qualify for Europe means they are now considering whether to pursue either a young shot-stopper or an experienced No 2 instead of a direct challenger to Pope. Newcastle have registered an interest in Burnley’s James Trafford and are likely to follow with a bid, while Queens Park Rangers’ Asmir Begovic has been linked. Seems to squash the rumour that we'd tabled a £35m bid for the unpronounceable Georgian keeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 8 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: Seems to squash the rumour that we'd tabled a £35m bid for the unpronounceable Georgian keeper Trafford does seem more plausible, especially if we're wanting to keep Pope around, but the club understandably tend to be a bit of a closed book this time of year and will pursue long term targets at the detriment of positional priority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 The athletic (for us) always seem last to know about any of our transfer targets. I wouldn’t believe much Waugh has to say about them tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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