NUFC Transfer Rumours

[LFEE]

3 hours ago, Holmesy said:

It seems very unlike 'us' under our new owners to leave ourselves so vulnerable to PSR punishment. Were they expecting an influx of revenue from somewhere that failed to materialise? Could the new restrictions on sponsorship deals have left us with a big financial hole to fill?

 

Either way, to leave it until the very last minute to sort it out is incredibly risky. It's the kind of thing you'd expect under Ashley, not Amanda and co.

 

I read somewhere the Premier League held up two of our sponsorship deals and currently still scrutinising them which then left us short for the deadline causing the last minute panic.

 

Again something else working against us. Not that I’m casting aspersions…  

[TRon]

A bit surprised to come into this thread to read about the ins and outs of Tonali's betting woes. But I guess he is proverbially....like a new signing.

[Holmesy]

14 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

Been here before like but there are methods of finding out about a players character, habits, friendship circles which aren't reliant on CCHQ style surveillance. It happens all the time in the US in the pre-draft process and it basically relies on conversations. I don't think anyone should have been going through his bank statements but I also don't think the 'how could we possibly have known?' argument passes the smell test. There are ways we could have gotten wind of his habits, we just didn't choose to use them. Whether you think that means the recruitment team failed or not depends on what your view of the research process for bringing in a big money signing should look like/involve.

I got absolute pelters when the Tonali rumours around his gambling were announced, for suggesting that our player vetting/research process wasn't robust enough - the usual simpletons on here suggesting I was saying we should get the CIA involved etc.
But it's all too easy to brush off the financial side of things when it's the PL because it feels like Monopoly money - it was 50 million pounds!! 50 fucking million pounds! Anywhere else, where that amount of money is being spent, every minute detail is poured over to minimise risk.

If we didn't have a leave-no-stone-unturned process before, I really hope we've learnt our lesson and do now. And yeah, if that means getting private investigators involved at a cost of £20k or asking Piers Morgan if we can borrow his phone-tapping equipment, just fucking do it. 

 

 

 

 

[madras]

Just now, Holmesy said:

I got absolute pelters when the Tonali rumours around his gambling were announced, for suggesting that our player vetting/research process wasn't robust enough - the usual simpletons on here suggesting I was saying we should get the CIA involved etc.
But it's all too easy to brush off the financial side of things when it's the PL because it feels like Monopoly money - it was 50 million pounds!! 50 fucking million pounds! Anywhere else, where that amount of money is being spent, every minute detail is poured over to minimise risk.

If we didn't have a leave-no-stone-unturned process before, I really hope we've learnt our lesson and do now. And yeah, if that means getting private investigators involved at a cost of £20k or asking Piers Morgan if we can borrow his phone-tapping equipment, just fucking do it. 

 

 

 

 

Usual simpletons 

[khay]

17 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said:

His England experience will make moving to a club like Liverpool seem more appealing.

Like all the other Liverpool  players playing in the game yesterday? 

[Holmesy]

3 minutes ago, LFEE said:

 

I read somewhere the Premier League held up two of our sponsorship deals and currently still scrutinising them which then left us short for the deadline causing the last minute panic.

 

Again something else working against us. Not that I’m casting aspersions…  

That makes sense! You can imagine them up in the background just long enough that we miss their financial deadlines. This whole thing just stinks to high heaven

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

Just now, khay said:

Like all the other Liverpool  players playing in the game yesterday? 

Might want a bigger sample size than that. Wouldn’t dismiss it. Liverpool are a step up. 

[Holmesy]

5 minutes ago, madras said:

Usual simpletons 

Taking a short break from smashing rocks with a hammer to comment on my post and give me dog's abuse

 

 

Edited July 1, 2024 by Holmesy

[madras]

1 minute ago, Holmesy said:

Taking a short break from smashing rocks with a hammer to comment on my post and give me dog's abuse

Me ?

[Holmesy]

10 minutes ago, madras said:

Me ?

No mate, that would've been really fucking rude wouldn't it?!  I was referring to the simpletons. No idea who they were..........but they do! 

 

 

Edited July 1, 2024 by Holmesy

[Adam P]

Madras has been part of the inner clique of simpletons on this forum since the noughties. Plays the wacky amusing uncle nowadays. 

[duo]

3 hours ago, Peder75 said:

Gordon is at the Euros, and has full focus on that. They have no idea if his head has turned or not, or if he has given it any thought at all. Just lazy journalism.

Can't have liked being peddled about by the club and if Liverpool did show interest it's not a stretch to think his head could have been turned. He has total belief in his ability and wants to get to the top.

[Fezzle]

1 hour ago, relámpago blanco said:

If you go and work for certain government bodies depending on the classification of data you have to

It's nufc not the CIA man. 

[madras]

28 minutes ago, Adam P said:

Madras has been part of the inner clique of simpletons on this forum since the noughties. Plays the wacky amusing uncle nowadays. 

Harsh

 

 

 

 

 

 

But fair.

 

But I was never part of any clique.

 

 

Edited July 1, 2024 by madras

[Conjo]

28 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

I got absolute pelters when the Tonali rumours around his gambling were announced, for suggesting that our player vetting/research process wasn't robust enough - the usual simpletons on here suggesting I was saying we should get the CIA involved etc.
But it's all too easy to brush off the financial side of things when it's the PL because it feels like Monopoly money - it was 50 million pounds!! 50 fucking million pounds! Anywhere else, where that amount of money is being spent, every minute detail is poured over to minimise risk.

If we didn't have a leave-no-stone-unturned process before, I really hope we've learnt our lesson and do now. And yeah, if that means getting private investigators involved at a cost of £20k or asking Piers Morgan if we can borrow his phone-tapping equipment, just fucking do it. 

 

I'd prefer we acted ethically and didn't violate peoples privacy regardless of how much money we're talking about.

[Holmesy]

1 minute ago, Conjo said:

 

I'd prefer we acted ethically and didn't violate peoples privacy regardless of how much money we're talking about.

I wasn't actually being serious about tapping his phone, for the record. 

[Newcastle Fan]

Our next target has to be a proper right winger.

[Conjo]

Don't think many players would want to join us if they knew we'd hire a fucking PI to dig into their lives either

[worthy]

Just now, Conjo said:

Don't think many players would want to join us if they knew we'd hire a fucking PI to dig into their lives either

Just get a lie detector, like that lad from The Mentalist, he would be canny to bring with before they sign!

[toon25]

Personally was quite impressed we got the fees we did for Anderson and Minteh at the last minute. 

[Dr Venkman]

55 minutes ago, madras said:

Usual simpletons 

 

[The Prophet]

 

[Holmesy]

Look, those things were said tongue in cheek and there's every chance i sound like a condescending prick with this, but in well-functioning businesses, when incidents/mistakes the size of the Tonali one occurs, there's usually an internal investigation that involves deep diving your process and one of two things happens:

 

1. You ascertain that your process was at fault and you make it more robust to avoid the problem happening again

2. You establish that your process is as watertight as it could be, you accept that there is an element of risk involved that can't be mitigated, and you put an insurance policy in place to compensate you should that risk occur. This could be in the form of an actual insurance policy or a clause in the contract with the selling club (unlikely)

 

What you don't do is just shrug it off as 'one of those things' and move on without change.

 

We've no idea what our internal investigation found or what action we have taken as a result. Talk of phone tapping and P.I is said in jest but the suggestion that there's nothing we could have done and nothing we could do going forward is naive, and it certainly wouldn't satisfy the money-men at the club or the owners. 

 

I can say with 100% certainty that something will have changed following the Tonali debacle. We're too well run now for it not to have

[Upthemags]

Just now, The Prophet said:

 

Please.

[STM]

About an hour ago I was going to say this has been the most mental 48 hours I've ever seen, there's been about 3 things happen since.