cubaricho Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 31 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: People still somehow confuse Willock’s obvious quality with not having seen him play much in a year. Still boggles the mind. It's insane to me. And then in the same breath overrate Big Joe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 Is there a reason we quote this Will guy? Has he ever got something right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 9 minutes ago, LFEE said: I don’t want any Drameh this year we had enough last year with injuries and dodgy pens against! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 13 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: The article is a year old but I do like the sound of this lad.. https://milanreports.com/2023/07/17/thiaw-fundamental-milan-project/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 48 minutes ago, cubaricho said: It's insane to me. And then in the same breath overrate Big Joe. Overate big jow! how dare you he is a beast and no other player about can do his job for us. He's a freak of nature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 31 minutes ago, LFEE said: So I guess Ashby is just not a thing anymore? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 11 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said: So I guess Ashby is just not a thing anymore? Remember Drameh being a bit deal a few years ago. Seems a canny pick up. Ashby is definitely for the door if so. Krath being able to play CB is also keeping him here a little longer imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 54 minutes ago, andycap said: So do yous think there could be anything in the raphina links? He'd be next level considering the other right wing options we have been linked with. I think on paper he'd be pretty much the ideal player for what we need at RW and I'd be very surprised if we're not interested, his name has been mentioned in connection to us for years. Has the qualities of a winger in terms of being able to run at and beat a man but also likes to get on the ball and try to pick a killer pass in the final third. Seems unclear as to what sort of wages he's on though, may be out of our range. And would he want to go to a club not in Europe while he's aged 27, in his prime? I'd also be a little worried about a player moving to us as a downwards step. Will he have the motivation? Think there's a fair chance he moves this summer, think we'll have an interest. Not sure we'll land him though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 Upon further look I expect the Drameh links are probably just agent driven. Linked to mid table champ and upper league one clubs. Ironically we were in for him but then opted for Ashby instead in Jan 2023! https://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/former-newcastle-united-target-set-for-summer-transfer-after-leeds-united-offer-4688448 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 1 hour ago, Thumbheed said: I think my reservation is what is the plan if Tonali doesn't make the grade? Seems to be alot of assumptions that him being Bruno/Joe class is a given when it very much isn't. Should he not quite make the grade are we happy with an injury prone Willock and/or Longstaff as the replacement in a run in for CL qualification I don't know, I feel you kind of have to assume that your 50m midfielder is pretty decent and will feature a fair amount. He might flop but he'll be given every opportunity to not do so. For the record I'd very much be interested in moving on Longstaff and bringing in a new CM with more upside. I'd probably currently rank CM behind RW, versatile forward, CB and GK in terms of priority targets though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 14 minutes ago, Shak said: I think on paper he'd be pretty much the ideal player for what we need at RW and I'd be very surprised if we're not interested, his name has been mentioned in connection to us for years. Has the qualities of a winger in terms of being able to run at and beat a man but also likes to get on the ball and try to pick a killer pass in the final third. Seems unclear as to what sort of wages he's on though, may be out of our range. And would he want to go to a club not in Europe while he's aged 27, in his prime? I'd also be a little worried about a player moving to us as a downwards step. Will he have the motivation? Think there's a fair chance he moves this summer, think we'll have an interest. Not sure we'll land him though. 243.000 euros a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 6 hours ago, Joelinton7 said: So I guess Ashby is just not a thing anymore? I think that's pretty much the case, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 If we just want a back up RB then Atal is worth a punt. He can also play RW as well, a low cost short term cover. We have very limited budget and likely we can only buy one starting CB or RW. We better prepare to see Almiron continue to start for us (should be the last season though). In that case we can try to bid Antonio Silva for 50m. Very highly rated last season, dropped off a bit this season, but still worth to gamble imo. If he is back to his best we won’t be able to get him, as he is closely monitored by all the big clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 3 minutes ago, Zero said: If we just want a back up RB then Atal is worth a punt. He can also play RW as well, a low cost short term cover. We have very limited budget and likely we can only buy one starting CB or RW. We better prepare to see Almiron continue to start for us (should be the last season though). In that case we can try to bid Antonio Silva for 50m. Very highly rated last season, dropped off a bit this season, but still worth to gamble imo. If he is back to his best we won’t be able to get him, as he is closely monitored by all the big clubs. I think he’s gone. Him and Wilson are the two that will make way. I can’t see Miggy staying here when we need a saleable asset to fund that right hand side and have the more versatile Murphy as back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 5 minutes ago, Nucasol said: I think he’s gone. Him and Wilson are the two that will make way. I can’t see Miggy staying here when we need a saleable asset to fund that right hand side and have the more versatile Murphy as back up. I want to raise more funds for a new RW as well, however it seems like both Almiron and Wilson prefers to stay. We can’t force them out… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 9 hours ago, Thumbheed said: Don't think I have, I don't think he could take any of the top teams up a level but the likes of Joe could. Still a very good player and contributed in the same way Longstaff did in the CL year and whilst I rate him higher than Longstaff their impact at their best has been almost the same. Have to bare in mind Isak, Gordon and Bruno are the level we're aiming for. There's no reason therefore why we still can't go after that calibre of player in every postion. Tino and Barnes being good examples of players signed who would be good enough for a starting postion inspite of having similar quality players in front of them. Have you actually watched a fit Joe Willock under Eddie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 8 hours ago, The Prophet said: Strong links to Thiaw in the Italian media again. Feels like this is the guy we want. No idea who he is though Really lack som RW rumours though. Or is it MGW we think is the target? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 13 minutes ago, ATB said: Feels like this is the guy we want. No idea who he is though Really lack som RW rumours though. Or is it MGW we think is the target? If Trippier leaves and we've got Tino starting, having MGW as a RW could actually work pretty well. Tino will keep the width + make runs behind the defence and MGW can combine with him or drift into the centre/box. Personally though I do think the RW we are after probably hasn't even been mentioned yet and ideally that's the way it should stay until he's in the building. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 The club can should be able to spend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, NSG said: The club can should be able to spend Luke on the outside, snub nose and bald head pressing up against the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 There were conversations with Liverpool about Gordon, whose agent was pushing hard for him to get the move to his boyhood club right up until the June 30 deadline. The player, according to multiple Newcastle sources, had wanted the transfer to go through and had been talking about it to team-mates while on England duty at the Euros. Liverpool, though, were lukewarm in their interest, failed to make a bid and the numbers talked about were so low they would not have made a meaningful contribution to the PSR deficit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 Other snippets: If Wilson had left last month, that deal would have made a lot of sense but they could not create a market for the 32-year-old. Newcastle did not get the £20 million they had initially sought from Manchester United, but the payment was still a significant one and Newcastle had somehow got themselves out of trouble without losing any key players. It should mean the club can now spend in excess of £100 million in this summer’s window with a right-sided forward and a centre-back their priorities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 (edited) 10 hours ago, Thumbheed said: Don't think I have, I don't think he could take any of the top teams up a level but the likes of Joe could. Still a very good player and contributed in the same way Longstaff did in the CL year and whilst I rate him higher than Longstaff their impact at their best has been almost the same. Have to bare in mind Isak, Gordon and Bruno are the level we're aiming for. There's no reason therefore why we still can't go after that calibre of player in every postion. Tino and Barnes being good examples of players signed who would be good enough for a starting postion inspite of having similar quality players in front of them. 1 hour ago, relámpago blanco said: Have you actually watched a fit Joe Willock under Eddie? Yeh I have. But is he getting into the teams who regularly make up the top 4? If you think yes he would then fine, our opinions are completely divided, if it's a no then surely you can see the logic in having a first choice option off the bench who might have the quality to get into those sides - it's not like we haven't got precedence of signing those exact type of players. Bruno would, Tonali has pedigree at a top club (although still unproven over here) and I would argue that Joelinton has a place in those clubs given he's good enough for Brazil. Look at our back up options for our defence (Kelly, Tino and potentially Schar) all of those are good enough for a top club. That's the quality of depth we should be aiming for. Don't think it's that controversial. Edited July 4, 2024 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 How much in excess though? Because let's be honest, we need to spend more than £100M this summer. Especially if Wilson, Trippier and Almiron leave, obviously they will provide some cash but not THAT much. If we're wanting to be seriously competing then £100M gets you a starting CB and starting RW. Then we'd need another ST and a RB at minimum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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