sushimonster85 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 3 minutes ago, Mazzy said: If we're wanting to be seriously competing then £100M gets you a starting CB and starting RW. Then we'd need another ST and a RB at minimum. I would argue that the ST and RB don't need to starting level, and rather depth options. Especially the RB, we can go for an out of contract option, or an older option as we know Tino is likely going to have that position nailed down for years to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 Mad to be selling Trippier, have no idea why people keep repeating that as if it’s a good idea. £100m seems credible to me, I think that’ll be a CB at about 30m, RW at 60m and a punt on a young striker if Wilson leaves. Already brought in 2 new faces, expect 3 more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 (edited) 33 minutes ago, NSG said: The club can should be able to spend 1) lame as fuck you quote this dude (Luke). 2) of course we can man. Edited July 4, 2024 by cubaricho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 3 minutes ago, WilliamPS said: Mad to be selling Trippier, have no idea why people keep repeating that as if it’s a good idea. £100m seems credible to me, I think that’ll be a CB at about 30m, RW at 60m and a punt on a young striker if Wilson leaves. Already brought in 2 new faces, expect 3 more If we get 10 million from him, I think I would sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 To be fair like, nothing much between Hope, Edwards and Downie these days, they all have very similar sources. The only difference is Edwards likes to a bit of a dramatic/hysteric flair to his articles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 Edwards and Hope get a massive kick out of negative stories it has to be said and when they’re challenged they come back “hey, I’m just spitting facts” even if it turns out they were completely wrong and their sources lied to them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 24 minutes ago, Mazzy said: How much in excess though? Because let's be honest, we need to spend more than £100M this summer. Especially if Wilson, Trippier and Almiron leave, obviously they will provide some cash but not THAT much. If we're wanting to be seriously competing then £100M gets you a starting CB and starting RW. Then we'd need another ST and a RB at minimum. I would speculate that it would be £100m plus whatever we get for any outgoings. So if we don't shift anyone of any significance it'll be the 23/24 squad plus starting RW and a new CB (plus Tonali I suppose). Wilson goes, we'll bring in a CF. Trippier goes we'll bring in a RB. Almiron I'm not sure seeing as we'll be looking at RW regardless. Maybe they'll just keep that aside either for January or if a long-term target suddenly becomes available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 11 minutes ago, WilliamPS said: Mad to be selling Trippier, have no idea why people keep repeating that as if it’s a good idea. I love Trippier. Set the standard after the takeover, seems like a great leader. However we are reaching the sliding doors moment with him and Tino. Trippier (for whatever reason) had a shaky second half of the season, when he wasn't injured. Tino is at the point now where we don't really miss Trippier from a technical standpoint when he is out. It would be foolish to risk losing Tino, who by all rights would start in the PL for at least 14 other sides and is only going to keep improving, to continue on this season with Trippier, who is likely entering his final season (2 at a push) at this top level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 22 minutes ago, WilliamPS said: Mad to be selling Trippier, have no idea why people keep repeating that as if it’s a good idea. £100m seems credible to me, I think that’ll be a CB at about 30m, RW at 60m and a punt on a young striker if Wilson leaves. Already brought in 2 new faces, expect 3 more If last week has taught the club anything, it’s that we need to be better at selling. We should have sold him in January, I’d definitely cash in on him this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 I just think Trippiers legs have gone and he wasn't quick anyway. If we are dominant, fine, he's as good as anyone in dictating from the back and delivering good balls. Sadly, the reality is that we are going to have defend in games and in the PL you invariably come up against quick wingers who can make you look silly. Livramento has the potential to be one of the best one on one defenders I've ever seen, certainly at Newcastle. He's absolutely rapid at both ends of the pitch. The time is right to let him develop his game. Trippier ain't staying here to sit on our bench, not 6 months after Bayern wanted him. Any notion that he's now number 2 and he's gone. .... however, I do think Howe will see Trippier as his main RB, Howe shows loyalty to his senior players. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I think 10m isn't enough to let him go. We'd need another RB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 Let’s hope Mitchell comes in hitting the ground running. Do we think this affects Nickson’s role at the club at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 Just now, gbandit said: Let’s hope Mitchell comes in hitting the ground running. Do we think this affects Nickson’s role at the club at all? No, not at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 1 minute ago, gbandit said: Let’s hope Mitchell comes in hitting the ground running. Do we think this affects Nickson’s role at the club at all? Don’t think so, but Mitchell is more recruitment focused than Ashworth so I’m excited to see what we do in the market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 1 hour ago, Nucasol said: There were conversations with Liverpool about Gordon, whose agent was pushing hard for him to get the move to his boyhood club right up until the June 30 deadline. The player, according to multiple Newcastle sources, had wanted the transfer to go through and had been talking about it to team-mates while on England duty at the Euros. Liverpool, though, were lukewarm in their interest, failed to make a bid and the numbers talked about were so low they would not have made a meaningful contribution to the PSR deficit. This is factually complete bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 38 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: I would argue that the ST and RB don't need to starting level, and rather depth options. Especially the RB, we can go for an out of contract option, or an older option as we know Tino is likely going to have that position nailed down for years to come. But they still need to be at a certain standard, and that will probably cost us a the best part of (if not more than) £40M to get two players in those positions. A striker especially, if they are young and have any sort of promise they will be expensive. Perhaps a RB would be cheaper but they need to be of a quality where we'd be happy to see them play all season. We know how easily players get injured for months at a time and Tino isn't immune to that kind of thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondonewc Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 3 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: This is factually complete bullshit. Lol, "the numbers talked about were so low they would not have made a meaningful contribution to the PSR deficit.", this bit kinda gave it away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 23 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: I would speculate that it would be £100m plus whatever we get for any outgoings. So if we don't shift anyone of any significance it'll be the 23/24 squad plus starting RW and a new CB (plus Tonali I suppose). Wilson goes, we'll bring in a CF. Trippier goes we'll bring in a RB. Almiron I'm not sure seeing as we'll be looking at RW regardless. Maybe they'll just keep that aside either for January or if a long-term target suddenly becomes available. That wouldn't be a huge amount more in reality, especially if Miggy doesn't leave as he'd likely be the one to bring in the most money. Trippier, Wilson and Dubravka could easily go for less than £30M combined, and that's a decent enough amount but when that means you then have to replace two of players with similar quality it doesn't feel like much. Even when you spread it out over the season for PSR calculations. I don't want to see us go into this season having failed to strengthen in the same areas that needed to be last summer (RW/CB/ST). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 30 minutes ago, gbandit said: Edwards and Hope get a massive kick out of negative stories it has to be said and when they’re challenged they come back “hey, I’m just spitting facts” even if it turns out they were completely wrong and their sources lied to them More clicks innit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 16 hours ago, Jack27 said: Now Miley is injured we probably have to, yes We have six central midfielders and one will miss the first 6 games of the season. I hardly think that means we have to sign one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 30 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: If last week has taught the club anything, it’s that we need to be better at selling. We should have sold him in January, I’d definitely cash in on him this summer. He’s not worth very much in £££, you’d have to buy a replacement and that replacement is going to know they are second choice with no plan for them to become first choice. Basically it would add some bang average squad player on a 5 year deal, probably for the same cash recouped from a sale. Meanwhile you remove the player that sets the bar in terms of standards at the club. After Howe, Trippier is the most important personality in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 36 minutes ago, STM said: I just think Trippiers legs have gone and he wasn't quick anyway. If we are dominant, fine, he's as good as anyone in dictating from the back and delivering good balls. Sadly, the reality is that we are going to have defend in games and in the PL you invariably come up against quick wingers who can make you look silly. Livramento has the potential to be one of the best one on one defenders I've ever seen, certainly at Newcastle. He's absolutely rapid at both ends of the pitch. The time is right to let him develop his game. Trippier ain't staying here to sit on our bench, not 6 months after Bayern wanted him. Any notion that he's now number 2 and he's gone. .... however, I do think Howe will see Trippier as his main RB, Howe shows loyalty to his senior players. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I think 10m isn't enough to let him go. We'd need another RB. Been less than sold on his dead ball situations too. Gordon did well and we’ve got Tonali to add to the mix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 Prepare for a shit load of names linked With Mitchell and his old clubs from the usual suspects Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 Thought he was a midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 On 02/07/2024 at 23:30, Abacus said: Words, then; It probably feels like he's [Eddie Howe] carrying the load of every decision right now as the face of the club, at least from the fanbase and the press, which is why I do think a visible sporting director maybe needs to be the next transfer we make. Geet up! And look at the difference it makes to the optimism just on the forum already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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