Harvey Barnes

[Menace]

Stubbed his toe on his ps5 controller playing Fortnite apparently.

[SUPERTOON]

Isak, Willock, Barnes have all had reoccurrences, have I missed anyone ?

[Scoot]

Ahh ffs man! 

[r0cafella]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

Isak, Willock, Barnes have all had reoccurrences, have I missed anyone ?

Likely Botman too but given the lack of information the club gives on injuries it’s hard to say. 

[gbandit]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

Isak, Willock, Barnes have all had reoccurrences, have I missed anyone ?

Murphy, bit different but needs to be counted too

[RobS]

specifically this and Botman situation seem very strange and doesnt feel like normal injury stories you hear in football. 

 

Definitely need a massive investigation into what can be done to limit injuries and improve training/recovery methods to prevent this happening again in future seasons, and invest correctly to rectify.

[bobbydazzla]

1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

Isak, Willock, Barnes have all had reoccurrences, have I missed anyone ?

 

How long was Targett back for ? Two games ?

[mondonewc]

32 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Howe saying he might still need an operation as well.

This is what he actually said "It's the same now with Harvey Barnes, he won't need an operation but we are waiting to see if he comes back or not." 

Nevermind  He also said "It’s a setback to a degree. Where he’s felt pain in his foot again. Hopefully it’s not a permanent setback and he won’t need an operation. There’s still a chance that might happen.”

Apologies @ponsaelius

 

 

Edited December 15, 2023 by mondonewc

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, gbandit said:

Murphy, bit different but needs to be counted too

Yep.  At least five players in four months.  That’s not a great track record. 

[Shadow Puppets]

Just now, r0cafella said:

If what you’re saying is accurate why are we the team who seems to be only facing these issues? Our injury reoccurrence rate is astonishing. 
 

maybe other clubs take a surgery first approach knowing a reoccurrence after physio treatment is an absolute disaster. 

 

 

 

It is absolutely 100% true. The source on the Botman stuff is the horses mouth. And the source for the physio info is my brother-in-law, who is a sports physio.

 

Is our injury re-occurence rate really astonishing? Willock this season? Isak last season?

 

Other than that, what exactly has re-occured? Murphy's shoulder doesn't count because that is and always has been a major possibility with shoulder dislocations. You hope it won't happen again but there's every chance it will. It's a ballache of an operation to recover from so you try to avoid it.

 

Some players have had setbacks, yes, but that is part and parcel of football injuries... always has been.

 

 

 

 

[r0cafella]

Just now, Shadow Puppets said:

 

 

 

It is absolutely 100% true. The source on the Botman stuff is the horses mouth. And the source for the physio info is my brother-in-law, who is a sports physio.

 

Is our injury re-occurence rate really astonishing? Willock this season? Isak last season?

 

Other than that, what exactly has re-occured? Murphy's shoulder doesn't count because that is and always has been a major possibility with shoulder dislocations. You hope it won't happen again but there's every chance it will. It's a ballache of an operation to recover from so you try to avoid it.

 

Some players have had setbacks, yes, but that is part and parcel of football injuries... always has been.

 

 

 

 

They’ve been listed already in the thread, we have no players and those players we get back are injured again shortly after as witnessed with several players. 
 

so the question is why is this happening and what can be done to address it in the future? We simply can’t afford such situations to occur. 

[Shadow Puppets]

3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Isak, Willock, Barnes have all had reoccurrences, have I missed anyone ?

 

Barnes' injury hasn't reoccured. A setback isn't a reoccurrence. A setback is... it's taking longer than we first thought.

[Shadow Puppets]

Just now, r0cafella said:

They’ve been listed already in the thread, we have no players and those players we get back are injured again shortly after as witnessed with several players. 
 

so the question is why is this happening and what can be done to address it in the future? We simply can’t afford such situations to occur. 

Isak and Willock. That's all right?

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Isak and Willock. That's all right?

Targett got injured and right away, Botman touched some grass and has seemingly made it worst same with Barnes. 
 

We are clearly doing something wrong on this area and we have to address it. 

[Shadow Puppets]

3 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

How long was Targett back for ? Two games ?

No, he was back for ages, and his injury is not related to the first one.

[Shadow Puppets]

Just now, r0cafella said:

Targett got injured and right away, Botman touched some grass and has seemingly made it worst same with Barnes. 
 

We are clearly doing something wrong on this area and we have to address it. 

Targett got injured with a freak groin injury that was completely unrelated to his previous one.

 

Botman, last I heard, hasn't had any setback. They're just taking it really slow to hopefully avoid an 8-9 month operation layoff.

[Shadow Puppets]

Now's probably not the right time to tell you all that Elliot Anderson won't be back until February at the earliest. His broken bone in his back isn't healing up as quickly as they'd hoped. Initial specialist assessment was 8 weeks, but it's been 7 and it's nowhere near healed.

 

Again, that's not OUR medical department. That's specialists advising on the best course of action. We don't have a great deal of control over how quickly a bone heals.

[SUPERTOON]

December could well be a brutal month results wise based on all this news.

[RobS]

when we run out of fit players who can actually play are we allowed to just promote under21's into the squad as their under 21, and keep playing with a full team of kids? 

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

December could well be a brutal month results wise based on all this news.

Once this injury crisis hit this was always going to be the case. It’s been a brutal season and it’s only mid December. 
 

We have to take the lessons from this though, I don’t think we can afford another instance of this. 

[r0cafella]

5 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Now's probably not the right time to tell you all that Elliot Anderson won't be back until February at the earliest. His broken bone in his back isn't healing up as quickly as they'd hoped. Initial specialist assessment was 8 weeks, but it's been 7 and it's nowhere near healed.

 

Again, that's not OUR medical department. That's specialists advising on the best course of action. We don't have a great deal of control over how quickly a bone heals.

[Shearergol]

Just now, RobS said:

when we run out of fit players who can actually play are we allowed to just promote under21's into the squad as their under 21, and keep playing with a full team of kids? 

 

We can bring them in whenever we want I think

[bobbydazzla]

looks like Targett's current one is hammy and his prior one was achilles

 

just typical of the current luck that he recovers from long term injury, is on the bench for a bit, as soon as we need him he's immediately crocked again for a few months

 

can see why people are asking questions about the medical team, I think that's just a natural reaction as it's hard for most people to get their heads round us consistently having 11 of the squad out injured 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 15, 2023 by bobbydazzla

[Shearergol]

It's incredible really. Barnes, Botman, Pope, Willock, Isak - all absolutely vital to our team. I'd just quit if this was FM.

[Kid Icarus]

31 minutes ago, Smal said:

really?

12 weeks from 11th November according to the injuries and suspensions thread 

 

 

Edited December 15, 2023 by Kid Icarus