nufc4eva Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I think it's a class signing. If they got chiesa as well they have 3 players in Gordon, Barnes and Chiesa that could play in most positions across that front line in a 4-3-3 or even in a 4-2-3-1 and the midfield behind that has the legs and ability to dominate midfields. Still need a left back hopefully and maybe a young central defender Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tina Tooner Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Would be ideal if Leicester took one of Lascelles/Lewis/Fraser/Hayden/Hendrick in a package Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Just now, Tina Tooner said: Would be ideal if Leicester took one of Lascelles/Lewis/Fraser/Hayden/Hendrick in a package Or all four Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Harvey Barnes is basically what we hope Gordon will be in a year a two. Partly true, I think Gordon has more room for development and will be able to play across several positions. Barnes is solidly a left winger and I can’t really see that changing. However, Eddie’s number one priority is coaching players so I guess he’s identified areas he thinks he could improve Barnes’ game. When it comes to transfers, I imagine there’s a ton of focus on data and then bringing that to Howe for him to consider how developing weaker areas will feed into a larger longer term team unit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: Intrigued that risk adverse Romano has picked this up. Still cynical about pretty much all our recent newspaper links being players with the same agent. Covered his arse in what he said though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I back the club whatever they want to do, they’ve barely put a foot wrong in the transfer market. However, I can see why some are not overly thrilled with this move, the goal scoring side to Barnes is clearly a big upside, but everyone was expecting a player who could unlock the door. The below is a comparison with Lindstrom from Frankfurt and undoubtedly Barnes creative ability is rightly called into question, if that’s what he’s been brought in to do, they don’t scream CL elite player let’s just say that. ‘Lindstrom is closely ranked to the Englishman in a number of metrics including: goals per shot (0.16 vs 0.13), shot-creating actions per 90 (2.94 vs 3.30), and % of shots on target (42.2 vs 43.4). Furthermore, although Barnes is an impressive goalscorer, he still has much to improve on regarding build-up play, residing within the lowest 23% in Europe’s top five leagues among his positional peers for passes attempted per 90, pass completion, and progressive passes per 90’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 23 minutes ago, St1pe said: To be fair it was a bit like when we all thought Emery was going to sign and we got Howe. A good majority of the fan base thought it was a step back and it turned out alright. A bit more than alright, shirley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, gbandit said: Partly true, I think Gordon has more room for development and will be able to play across several positions. Barnes is solidly a left winger and I can’t really see that changing. However, Eddie’s number one priority is coaching players so I guess he’s identified areas he thinks he could improve Barnes’ game. When it comes to transfers, I imagine there’s a ton of focus on data and then bringing that to Howe for him to consider how developing weaker areas will feed into a larger longer term team unit Barnes has scored loads of goals from the centre. Yes he’s a left winger but he comes infield a lot on the counter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Barnes has scored loads of goals from the centre. Yes he’s a left winger but he comes infield a lot on the counter I must have missed that, I feel like I’ve only ever seen him on the left and then cutting inside when he gets close to the goal to get shots off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 For people who know Barnes a bit better then myself, can he play in the middle of needed? Either on the left of the midfield three, or as a CAM. As I can see Howe adapting how we play slightly this season in order for things to not become stale. For example if Howe wanted to play a 4-2-3-1, you could put this team out: Tonali Bruno Gordon. Barnes. ASM Isak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Just now, 54 said: For people who know Barnes a bit better then myself, can he play in the middle of needed? Either on the left of the midfield three, or as a CAM. As I can see Howe adapting how we play slightly this season in order for things to not become stale. For example if Howe wanted to play a 4-2-3-1, you could put this team out: Tonali Bruno Gordon. Barnes. ASM Isak not seen it but it doesn’t mean he can’t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Just now, Shearergol said: not seen it but it doesn’t mean he can’t He's not as effective there, but ASM has played their before so that's also an option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, 54 said: For people who know Barnes a bit better then myself, can he play in the middle of needed? Either on the left of the midfield three, or as a CAM. As I can see Howe adapting how we play slightly this season in order for things to not become stale. For example if Howe wanted to play a 4-2-3-1, you could put this team out: Tonali Bruno Gordon. Barnes. ASM Isak Feels like it we wanted to do that then Maddison would have made more sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicente_14 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Would be a good signing and think Eddie would take him to another level which is exciting. Also, with the allowance of five subs and the intensity we play at, having great quality on the bench is huge, we can change almost half the side and ramp up the press and intensity even more and play that way for the full 90. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Not particularly keen on this. Doesn't improve our first 11 imo. On the left we already have ASM who is better when fit, Gordon who is younger and Joelinton who played there when we played our best football of the season. Not really sure how much more Barnes offers. If we were going to sign a left winger, id want someone quality who improves the 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, 80 said: Don't know why people are so repelled by this. Re: sideways moves, sometimes they help you get where you want to go faster i.e. changing lanes on a motorway. It's not even a sideways move, he offers a source of consistent source of goals from out wide, something we lack. Edited July 8, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) Thinking about it now it's a no-brainer at that price like. I just hope he's there to offset ASM's weaknesses rather than replace him altogether. He feels like this year's Jack Harrison. Edited July 8, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddles mullet Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: Not particularly keen on this. Doesn't improve our first 11 imo. On the left we already have ASM who is better when fit, Gordon who is younger and Joelinton who played there when we played our best football of the season. Not really sure how much more Barnes offers. If we were going to sign a left winger, id want someone quality who improves the 11. ASM is never fit. Gordon is younger? What kind of argument is that? ? Agree with Joelinton though, but guess we will need him in midfield over a long season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 41 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Harvey Barnes is basically what we hope Gordon will be in a year a two. Personally think Gordon is more of a play on the shoulder, run between the lines type player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: Not particularly keen on this. Doesn't improve our first 11 imo. On the left we already have ASM who is better when fit, Gordon who is younger and Joelinton who played there when we played our best football of the season. Not really sure how much more Barnes offers. If we were going to sign a left winger, id want someone quality who improves the 11. Barnes is way more productive than ASM has been. He provides more goal threat. ASM may dribble more but doesn't offer that much in way of assists or goals and is often frustrating. Having someone that can score outside or inside box compliments Isaak and Wilson when teams try to stay deep. I think it's a really good signing for us. He can probably help out more defensively than ASM as well. Never quite get the negativity considering where we have been. I trust Howe/Ashworth and the rest to get it right more often than wrong so going to trust that and they must have seen something to think he's a good fit with the team/tactics etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Are we waiting for a “there’s been no contact but Newcaslte like the player” tweet from Hope or Edwards or is this one a goer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 We are gradually building a stronger squad.. we are not in a position to have worldies on our bench just yet. Plus if this lad had been playing abroad with his goals and assists record people would be all over this. Please don't make him the next boo boy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 We need more of a goal threat from our wide areas. It’s a no brainer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, BeloEmre said: ASM is never fit. Gordon is younger? What kind of argument is that? ? Agree with Joelinton though, but guess we will need him in midfield over a long season. More to the point, Barnes is 25 and approaching his peak. Gordon is 22 and played over 100 fewer games than Barnes. There's more room for Gordon to develop as opposed to Barnes. If we're signing him to replace ASM, it's a drop off in quality. Regardless of how fit ASM is. We'll see like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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