Newcastle United 1-2 Liverpool (27/08/23)

[Ronaldo]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

You stand out like a sore thumb on the odd occasions there's an opportunity to be negative. Some might say some posters only really post when that opportunity presents itself...

Check my posts after Villa. But that genuinely was the worst second half performance I’ve seen from us in a long time and there’s no excuse for it given the position we were in. 

[vic]

Need a new keeper,Pope had 2 shots to save ,compare with Liverpool keeper.

[Kid Icarus]

Just now, mikejaxer said:

To be honest I'm sick of both sides 

 

I'm sick of the bed wetters but I'm also sick of the crowd that thinks no one is allowed any criticism ever.

and the strawmanning

[timnufc22]

Why take off Gordon, our best player? If you’re going to put Barnes on, replace Almiron. Surely it’s not fitness otherwise you’re throwing quite a black mark against Gordon if that’s the case, but he looked fine. 
 

I’d rarely take Isak off either, not against quality opposition. I said after Man City I have no idea why you’d do that when losing 1-0 needing a goal, can you imagine us taking Shearer off when needing a goal against quality opposition? Isak didn’t get a chance but you knew Liverpool were going to push forward at some point and that’s when you’d want him to pounce. It’s hardly a confidence builder for him either, granted I know he’s a steely character. Wilson will get plenty of games, you could have put him on with Isak. 
 

Bruno’s giving it away non stop and I don’t know if his feet are on the ground or if there’s something wrong but he seems a sensitive character to me and that outside foot pass at the end was so sloppy. 
 

I understand you want to draw Liverpool out but at least TRY to play quick football to wear them down, if the tactic was to play slow build up to bring Liverpool out then that’s a mistake imo because they’re human and it’s hard to switch from slow play to quick play easily.

[buzza]

Yep, very depressing, especially after watchin how horse face celebrated as though he had won the champs league

[Dyeyzzon]

Just now, vic said:

Need a new keeper,Pope had 2 shots to save ,compare with Liverpool keeper.

 

I don't think Pope could've done anything with those Nunez finishes tbf.

[Nobody]

Just now, Dyeyzzon said:

 

I don't think Pope could've done anything with those Nunez finishes tbf.

Of course he couldn't, both perfect finishes, which he is only able to produce against us btw. 

[HaydnNUFC]

That was fucking shite. 70 minutes against 10 men, 1-0 up and lose. Subs didn't make sense, performance was naff across the 90 anyway, created nowt, our goal came from their mistake. Really, really poor.

[The Butcher]

There's clear lack of creativity in the side like. We have plenty of pace and power, but we really need a creator in the final third. Breaking down deep sitting teams could be a problem this season.

[nufcjb]

The worse feeling I got about this is, Liverpool didn't win that game. We lost that game. Utterly handed it to them. I could have accepted if we lost 0-3, but the circumstances to how we got the 1-2 scoreline from where it was, is incredibly hurting.

[Gallowgate Toon]

There's maybe an argument to keep Isak on for 'magic' but he was honestly poor today.

 

Didn't do enough to get involved and did very little when he did. I'm actually a bit disappointed in him for the last 2 games, he can do a lot better than that.

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, The Butcher said:

There's clear lack of creativity in the side like. We have plenty of pace and power, but we really need a creator in the final third. Breaking down deep sitting teams could be a problem this season.

We have for about 4 windows now tbh.

[Miggys First Goal]

Somebody go and slash Carragher's tyres.

[The Butcher]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

We have for about 4 windows now tbh.

We had ASM.

[Beren]

Howe saying they played well

[joeyt]

1 minute ago, The Butcher said:

There's clear lack of creativity in the side like. We have plenty of pace and power, but we really need a creator in the final third. Breaking down deep sitting teams could be a problem this season.

 

Guess that's where Maddison would have been helpful

[The Butcher]

Just now, joeyt said:

 

Guess that's where Maddison would have been helpful

Very much so.

[Dyeyzzon]

3 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

There's clear lack of creativity in the side like. We have plenty of pace and power, but we really need a creator in the final third. Breaking down deep sitting teams could be a problem this season.

 

This is it for me. Our midfield three looks strong but it's not exactly a creative one. An Anderson or a Willock would help it loads.

[Memphis]

All about mentality. Howe's mentality and his players'. We tried to play it as if we were a confident, veteran-filled European power and just ease to a 1-0 win while not overexerting our players, and we are not capable of that. 

 

That decision is on Eddie. And it isn't the first time we've tried to manage a game rather than dominate it. Our players - bar Tonali and Bruno - are energy warriors, pressing, running, hounding. Their strengths are not in elegant passing and game control. We played away from our strengths when facing 10. And the subs were all wrong. Again, also on Eddie. 

 

The players, though, don't escape blame. Really poor decision making in the final third, a real lack of drive, and a lack of composure -except for Gordon - at the end. Bruno is such a good player but he does seem to struggle to pick the right moments for his tricks. He put us under real pressure a few times and was at fault for their winner. Miggy, again, running for days but lacking the ability to anything other than his two tricks in the final third. Barnes, what was that? And defensively, we remain susceptible to elite speed. 

 

We are obviously a good team and will win plenty. But it's comparatively easier to go from 17th to 4th than it is to stay in that elite zone year on year. We are learning the mental lessons now, and it's a painful lesson.

[SUPERTOON]

Creativity wasn’t the issue today though.

[Smal]

1 minute ago, joeyt said:

 

Guess that's where Maddison would have been helpful

 

I think Tonali can do this for us eventually. Maybe not Maddison levels of numbers because he plays in a different area of the field, but he plays the ball forward all the time.

[smootsmack]

1 minute ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

There's maybe an argument to keep Isak on for 'magic' but he was honestly poor today.

 

Didn't do enough to get involved and did very little when he did. I'm actually a bit disappointed in him for the last 2 games, he can do a lot better than that.

 

He did get their captain sent off 30 minutes in ... im devastated today 

[Erikse]

40 minutes ago, Nobody said:

Almiron incredibly unlucky to not score at least one. 

 

It's frustrating, because he often looks dangerous, but he does so many strange things. Like poor passes or decision making.

[Novocastrian]

1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

Creativity wasn’t the issue today though.

We hardly had a shot on target. I’d argue creativity was exactly the issue. If you can’t give 10 men, sitting deep, the good news then that’s a lack of chance creation.

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, Novocastrian said:

We hardly had a shot on target. I’d argue creativity was exactly the issue. If you can’t give 10 men, sitting deep, the good news then that’s a lack of chance creation.

We didn’t lose today because of lack of creativity though.