Holloway Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Similar to the PSG capitulation, there's more to it than fatigue The lack of the depth of quality is staring us in the face,our ball retention is poor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Literally a referee decision away from the 1-0 away to PSG and an error from the same here. They barely hurt us up to that point. One tricky save and that was it, we held them brilliantly. Absolutely, for 92 mins we held them. Now they're in the hat and we're out though. It's frustrating as fuck and i'm annoyed but it's all because it's so self-inflicted. Yet again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Beth said: Why? So we can concentrate on qualifying for the EL? There's no way in hell in we're getting CL next season. Seems unlikely but we'll see when some players come back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Yorkie said: It wasn't though. Chelsea were absolutely rubbish and barely tested us. Backs to the wall got us to 92 minutes and then Trippier shit his kegs. Yet it came. Trippier or any player shitting his kegs and making a mistake is always one of the many things that are likely to happen when you're inviting pressure for an entire half. Honestly can't believe anyone watched that half and thought 'this is fine/sustainable.' Edited December 19, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Also - shite from Sky tonight. Comms said that the ref had a good game (he didn't!) and also, why again is ex Sunderland player Don Goodman commentating on a Newcastle game? The bloke was almost willing a Chelsea equalizer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, mikejaxer said: I feel like we were warned about this from Bournemouth fans tbh. There's no one to rotate with at the moment mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Holloway said: Similar to the PSG capitulation, there's more to it than fatigue The lack of the depth of quality is staring us in the face,our ball retention is poor When we won the game except for the part when the referee decided to write Mbappe (98) on his scorecard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Yorkie said: What's this got to do with Trippier knocking it down for Mudryk in injury time? How is it relevant? We needed to try and get more of a foothold in the game and having Hall on the left could have helped with that. He’s a fine technical player with good pace. I don’t see why he couldn’t do that job on the left playing with Tino behind him. Even though we were relativity comfortable defensively and putting in a fine showing at the back, if you’re constantly defending you’re always liable to a mistake, like Trippier made. We needed to reduce the defensive workload and having more technical players on the pitch would help with that. Edited December 19, 2023 by timnufc22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Holloway said: Similar to the PSG capitulation, there's more to it than fatigue The lack of the depth of quality is staring us in the face,our ball retention is poor Capitulation ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Just now, hakka said: Fine. Blame Eddie for failing and Tripps tonight. I think it's utterly harsh given the circumstances. Operating with double figures of first team players injured isn't a one-off either. I'm not blaming Howe at all, he's doing a remarkable job under massive stresses but to get so close so often and throw it away yet again is infuriating. I know I'm venting but we're so close to being very good but we still can't see tight games out like tonight. A top team wins that 1-0 and moves on - we aren't there yet and it's a mentality issue imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 No changing room photo of everyone kicking Trippiers heed in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, madras said: Man City Brighton and Wolves were all similar to last season (In fa t I'd sat we were better at Man City and Wolves than least season). Look at our level of substitutions last season, 2nd most and usually from the attacking 6 players to keep intensity up. Eddie was rotating Isak and Wilson. Barnes started for Gordon when he got injured. So far the only thing people have came up with is Trippier should gave came off for Tino at Wolves, which even if true wouldn't have made a huge deal of difference given everything else. Brighton I fully agree on as they just got the goals this time but not a chance were we better at Man City this season than last imo. Wilson and Joelinton fluffed 3 glorious chances, Gordon also miskicked the ball when played through early on. We also had more possession last season. Don't remember a single chance back in August. I felt we were quite lucky at Wolves this season with Neto going off soon after they equalised. He stays on and they probably win. Last season they set up deep after taking the lead, took us a wonder goal from ASM to get the breakthrough admittedly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 78% possession for Chelsea. I mean its not prime Barca we met tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, midds said: I'm not blaming Howe at all, he's doing a remarkable job under massive stresses but to get so close so often and throw it away yet again is infuriating. I know I'm venting but we're so close to being very good but we still can't see tight games out like tonight. A top team wins that 1-0 and moves on - we aren't there yet and it's a mentality issue imo. It's a squad depth, injury and fatigue issue imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Yet it came. Trippier or any player shitting his kegs and making a mistake is always one of the many things that are likely to happen when you're inviting pressure for an entire half. Honestly can't believe anyone watched that half and thought 'this is fine/sustainable.' I don't know how else we approach things? The couple of times we tried to attack, we had no legs to do anything. The few times we tried to press, they passed around us with ease. We sat back Rafa style and we were 2 minutes from it working. I don't know why it wasn't sustainable? They barely laid a glove on us the way we played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Eddie says Botman's half-time sub was planned (45mins only) Krafth has a knock after that challenge from Jackson (IIRC) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 We have a winger and a striker to bring on and press from the front, we hold onto that with ease imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Flashbacks to standing waiting for the metro home, year after year as a kid when we got knocked out of a cup, saying 'next year!' to my dad. I'm fucking 34 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I had to check that I hadn't accidentally logged onto X (twitter) when I read these last few pages ?? ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, hakka said: I didn't think it was sustainable, but it almost was. Not sure what people are expecting Eddie to do with this first XI different second half? Certainly couldn't do a Chelase and make some quality subs. It's not necessarily a criticism of Howe, I thought key performances from Trippier (obviously) and Wilson were really poor. First half we could have been in so many times but played it too short, lost it, or hit it too hard. Those are performance issues from the players for me. If it was needs must in the 2nd half, which it looked like, 1-0 is ridiculously perilous so Wilson needed to make it stick when we got it and he was so so poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Just now, LiquidAK said: We have a winger and a striker to bring on and press from the front, we hold onto that with ease imo We had a winger on the bench. You were seemingly happy Ritchie came on instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 The thing is with sitting back, you still need an outlet. Tonight we had Ritchie who is finished. A knackered Almiron and Wilson who can't really play more than an hour. I know it's the same old story but if we were able to make changes, we'd see that game out. We couldn't stretch them or hit them on the break. Even so, it was an individual error that cost us. Howe's hands are largely tied at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Ugh just utterly fucked off by the lot of it. Seriously want the season to end asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, bigfella said: It wasn't obvious which way Redknapp was leaning on that issue and as he's an unmitigated fool, I choose to think he's wrong about everything Yeah he's just went and said it's a yellow so I retract my statement and he's a complete moron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Just now, hakka said: I just disagree. It's the inability to bring on players to change a game at all on top of a decimated first XI going through a grueling amount of tough games. That's part of it absolutely, I know we're down to the bare bones and his hand are tied, I accept that 100%. But at some point you need to rely on the players to get over the line and see it through. It's a club issue as we've never had a squad full of 'winners' before. A squad that can cope mentally and physically with what is needed in order to shut games down like we've seen from the likes of Dortmund this season. They knew exactly what to do to see out 2 wins from 2 against us because they had that nous and experience that we're lacking in the squad. It'll come in time I'm sure but right now we've become soft as shit again. 2 wins away all season and it's nearly Christmas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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