Guest POWNATS Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Well, how prolific was he. How many goals did alan shearer score (minus penalties) in open play, we will include free kicks other than penalties. average per season at NUFC. Just interested to know if anyones worked it out before While on the subject of CF,s is Cruch coming to Newcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 on radioi newcastle they said he scored 50 penalties in his career at newcastle but the rest was open play (including free kicks) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Well, how prolific was he. How many goals did alan shearer score (minus penalties) in open play, we will include free kicks other than penalties. average per season at NUFC. Just interested to know if anyones worked it out before While on the subject of CF,s is Cruch coming to Newcastle Day release? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 not as prolific as you might think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 have you checked wikipedia. that will tell you how prolific he was Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Yeah, he scored something like 52 penalties i think. Couldn't care less... he's still got to put it in the net. For the Premiership only, had he not have netted against Sunderland in his last game - he would have had an exactly 1 in 2 goals ratio. So he's actually got a very marginally better one. I'd say he was pretty prolific... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 How can pens be discounted? he scored what he scored, all count to how prolific he was!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Well, a striker who takes penalties stands a higher chance of scoring than one who doesn't. I'd be pretty impressed if a striker matched his record without taking penalties, wouldn't you? Let's face it, penalties are not hard to score. If you put me in front of Given there's a good chance I'd hit the back of the net. So if you're measuring the greatness of a player, there's a good argument for removing his penalties. Perhaps a fairer way would be to measure the pens which he won for himself, but it'd be very hard to find this out. Nevertheless, Shearer played on until he was well past his best, making his goals-to-games record look poorer. If you measure his best years he was very prolific, but if you include the last couple of seasons when he faded badly it lowers his average. At his best he was one of the most prolific in the game. To win the league and score 30-odd league goals for Blackburn, with only Ripley and Wilcox his suppliers, is bloody impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 303 premiership apps 148 goals - 40ish Pens according to these stats he averaged roughly 1 in 3 in the prem for us (FOP) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Yet if he retired two years earlier his goals to games ratio would probably be one in two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko1892 Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Still think its a pretty daft argument. Shearer was our Penalty taker. Shearer was still the best penalty taker right up until he retired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 If it was that easy to score from the penalty spot.......england would probably be world cup winners by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest POWNATS Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 The reason i ask the question is while discussing scoring records with a mate of mine, also a newcastle fan, he said he thought penalties should not be included in a players scoring record Then he gives Shearer as an example, quoted 10.8 league goals per season at Newcastle, minus penalties Season is unfair, it must be games played. he had no stats for that However i do agree with him, penalties should not be included in a players scoring record unless its a seperate record against missed penalties. conversion percentage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 If it was that easy to score from the penalty spot.......england would probably be world cup winners by now. Shearer scored his one and only penalty in a World Cup finals tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 not as prolific as you might think Did fairly well in a shite team for the majority of his Toon career and was outstanding with a better team around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 If it was that easy to score from the penalty spot.......england would probably be world cup winners by now. Shearer scored his one and only penalty in a World Cup finals tbh. Scored two World Cup penalties actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 DEAD prolific. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 If it was that easy to score from the penalty spot.......england would probably be world cup winners by now. Shearer scored his one and only penalty in a World Cup finals tbh. Scored two World Cup penalties actually. Ah yes that's right. There was two in the Argentina game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 During those 3-4 years at Blackburn before coming to us... he was ridiculously good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 From the years 92-97 before Shearer suffered that horrific ankle injury IMO he was the greatest English striker of all time, he really did have it all. It's a testimony to the man really after that injury and the latter knee injury and not forgetting the earlier cruciate at Blackburn that he could come back and still score so many goals have lost his pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kenton Magpie Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 His record speaks for how prolific the great man was i think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 If it was that easy to score from the penalty spot.......england would probably be world cup winners by now. We are World Cup winners... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 If it was that easy to score from the penalty spot.......england would probably be world cup winners by now. We are World Cup winners... It wasn't over the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 If it was that easy to score from the penalty spot.......england would probably be world cup winners by now. We are World Cup winners... It wasn't over the line. Would have only been 3-2 then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 I never understand this "don't count penalties" argument. A goal is a goal. Has anyone wondered why some strikers don't take penalties? The reason is usually because they don't have a good record of scoring them. For example, I'm sure Owen missed a few for Liverpool and stopped taking them for them. With Shearer we were 95% sure he'd score when he took a penalty. The same can be said for only a few others. It's usually opposition fans who go on about Shearer 'only' scoring penalties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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