Kanji Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 2 hours ago, timeEd32 said: Pope is more like 2.01m, not that it matters if this guy is coming in. Yep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Bad week for Pope like, the end of his international career and replaced at his club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, PauloGeordio said: He’s Georgian, he’s Brutish. He has feet He’s soon to be ours. What's the tune? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 2 hours ago, LRD said: Mamardashvili 1.99m Burn 1.98m Adarabioyo 1.96m Botman 1.93m Isak 1.92m Pope 1.92m Building a team of giants. But will we get the “Average height top dogs” trophy though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 17 minutes ago, NSG said: If he’s on a 5 year deal and it’s £35m then it’s £7m a year, but only a few weeks would hit this year so you’re maybe looking £100k or so by the time the deal is done. Looking at our accounting policies I think that is right, but unless it is beneficial to either club to conclude on June (don’t see it here) then it would be a July transfer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 A dislocated shoulder is a pretty bad injury for a keeper.. maybe we are just hedging our bets on having two quality keepers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 10 minutes ago, The Butcher said: I do wonder where Pope will go. One of the promoted clubs? Brighton, Palace or West Ham? Not many great options atm. West Ham possibly? Maybe Forest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 What's he like with his long pass ability? Having one who's really good would be perfect for Isak and Gordon to run onto against a high pressing team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 16 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Makes perfect sense to me. It’s an area where we could clearly use an upgrade. Along with centre forward it’s the position on the pitch which is most important to get right. A top goalkeeper can win almost as many points as a top centre forward. We conceded 60-odd league goals last season - where might we have finished with a truly first-rank goalie in nets? I’m still in a little bit of shock that we’re going in for someone at his level. It’s good shock, mind Are we sure he's superior to Pope? About a calendar year ago people were calling Pope one of the best in the top flight (if not the world? As far as pure shot stopping goes?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 26 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Makes perfect sense to me. It’s an area where we could clearly use an upgrade. Along with centre forward it’s the position on the pitch which is most important to get right. A top goalkeeper can win almost as many points as a top centre forward. We conceded 60-odd league goals last season - where might we have finished with a truly first-rank goalie in nets? I’m still in a little bit of shock that we’re going in for someone at his level. It’s good shock, mind Why would we need to upgrade Nick Pope ? That's the part that makes no sense to me. I just can't see us bringing in a GK at over £30m alongside Pope. And i can't see Pope leaving, just don't see that as happening, but you never know. And you're right, it's a good shock if true with his ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, The Prophet said: Whether it's this guy or not, it looks almost certain we'll be bringing a first choice keeper in. Where's the evidence for that (if this guys sign, exhibit number one ) ? Pope's injury aside, he's done nowt wrong, and i don't see the need with our financial restraints for an expensive new number one GK. However, if Eddie thinks it, then I'm onboard. Edited May 23 by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 3 minutes ago, Bimpy474 said: Why would we need to upgrade Nick Pope ? That's the part that makes no sense to me. I just can't see us bringing in a GK at over £30m alongside Pope. And i can't see Pope leaving, just don't see that as happening, but you never know. And you're right, it's a good shock if true with his ability. Because he can’t kick a ball properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Can he ping an inch perfect ball long or not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseman Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Just now, Bimpy474 said: Why would we need to upgrade Nick Pope ? That's the part that makes no sense to me. I just can't see us bringing in a GK at over £30m alongside Pope. And i can't see Pope leaving, just don't see that as happening, but you never know. And you're right, it's a good shock if true with his ability. Most (myself included) didn't think we needed to upgrade dubravka when we signed Pope, but then saw the difference in quality it made to us as a team. The club has said before that they will grab players they feel are good value, and being nearly a decade younger then Pope they probably see him as the long term successor, and it's better to get him for 30 Mil now the 50 Mil in a couple of years time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 2 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: Because he can’t kick a ball properly. Yeah, that part is fair enough. Not overly worried about that at the moment myself. Imo we could spend the money in other areas, for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) 4 minutes ago, wiseman said: Most (myself included) didn't think we needed to upgrade dubravka when we signed Pope, but then saw the difference in quality it made to us as a team. The club has said before that they will grab players they feel are good value, and being nearly a decade younger then Pope they probably see him as the long term successor, and it's better to get him for 30 Mil now the 50 Mil in a couple of years time. Fair points. I guess the financial gymnastics we need to do comes down the judgement calls on what positions. And as you say, £30m now rather than £50m is better. If it does happen, it'll show a ruthlessness in Eddie, i'm not sure we all see. Edited May 23 by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) Oldest first-choice keepers in the league. Neto : 33 Foderingham : 33 Sels : 32 Leno : 32 Pope : 32 Average age is definitely dropping massively compared to 10-15 years ago when the likes of Schwarzer, Friedel, James, Given, Howard were playing into their mid to late 30s based on shot-stopping ability alone. Edited May 23 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) 6 minutes ago, wiseman said: The club has said before that they will grab players they feel are good value, and being nearly a decade younger then Pope they probably see him as the long term successor, and it's better to get him for 30 Mil now the 50 Mil in a couple of years time. I think this is a big part of this equation. Much like Gordon/Hall/Tino/etc. If a good deal is there to be had on a target we’re going to jump on it regardless of if it’s an immediate need or not. Edited May 23 by cubaricho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaj Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 5 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Oldest first-choice keepers in the league. Neto : 33 Foderingham : 33 Sels : 32 Leno : 32 Pope : 32 Average age is definitely dropping massively compared to 10-15 years ago when the likes of Friedel, James, Given, Howard were playing into their mid to late 30s based on shot-stopping ability alone. I wonder if part of the reason for this is that the ‘old guard’ generally aren’t as good with their feet which is in fashion now. Maybe in 10 years time the average age will creep up again when these top keepers who are also good with their feet are older. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 minute ago, Vaj said: I wonder if part of the reason for this is that the ‘old guard’ generally aren’t as good with their feet which is in fashion now. Maybe in 10 years time the average age will creep up again when these top keepers who are also good with their feet are older. That's a good shout, that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 7 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Oldest first-choice keepers in the league. Neto : 33 Foderingham : 33 Sels : 32 Leno : 32 Pope : 32 Average age is definitely dropping massively compared to 10-15 years ago when the likes of Schwarzer, Friedel, James, Given, Howard were playing into their mid to late 30s based on shot-stopping ability alone. Yup. Throw in his shoulder injuries and there's a chance we can't bank on Pope in the medium term. Ultimately we're probably going to need to buy a keeper in the next couple of years anyway. If a player they want is available now then it's best to act. Buying a young understudy to a first choice is rarely the solution the way people suggest it - because young keepers need to be playing to develop but you don't really rotate. It's actually the one position where you usually need to be ruthless and upgrade. Just like we did with Pope 2 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 21 minutes ago, Bimpy474 said: Yeah, that part is fair enough. Not overly worried about that at the moment myself. Imo we could spend the money in other areas, for now. When we play out from the back this weakness sort of gets skipped over. But this season when teams have pressed us, he’s had to go long and you can just never be confident. I’m sure the stats can be found but I wouldn’t be shocked if 90% if his long kicks resulted in losing possession. That’s a huge issue to sort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) I still think a top team has two quality keepers... Look how Man City's keeper come on and effectively won them the league (although I still think Son missed in purpose lol) Edited May 23 by RobsonsWonderland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Is it not being skipped over that this Marmaduke bloke is also crap with the ball at his feet by all accounts? Not as bad as Pope with his passing. But that’s not a high bar to clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justdoesit Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 21 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Oldest first-choice keepers in the league. Neto : 33 Foderingham : 33 Sels : 32 Leno : 32 Pope : 32 Average age is definitely dropping massively compared to 10-15 years ago when the likes of Schwarzer, Friedel, James, Given, Howard were playing into their mid to late 30s based on shot-stopping ability alone. I can't believe Leno is 32, I remember him being the next best thing! Crazy. Not relevant to the post - just showing my age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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