Paul Mitchell to leave club by mutual consent at end of June (Official)

[The College Dropout]

18 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Agree Ashworth was more of an infrastructure man, I don't think he had so much say on transfers. Supposedly one of the reasons he wanted away, he felt he should have more input, although how much truth there is in that I don't know.

 

I still feel Mitchell might work well at a club where the manager is seen as more of a coach. Just Howe is not that type, he wants full control, and with his record here, who is going to argue?

 

 

 

I don’t think Howe expects full control. He just wants strong influence. 
 

From the Eales quotes - Mitchell was brought in to decide contract extensions, sign and sell players without permission from Eddie. Howe focuses on coaching. 
 

Howe is not a finance man. He can’t make all the decisions. Some players will need to be sold that he wants to keep. He’s aware of that. But he wants players that he wants. And he wants his voice heard when players contract are up for renewal. Eddie would’ve taken Etikite or Joao Pedro it seems but Isak was the number one target.  
 

im not sure if Eales was in post.  But PIF and Ashworth were there when we decided to go from £20m on Etikite, £30m on Joao Pedro, to £60m on Isak.  But it was Amanda and some degree Howe that’s blamed for the splurging.  Same goes for everyone else we bought at a premium - Eales was right there.  

[TRon]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

I don’t think Howe expects full control. He just wants strong influence. 
 

From the Eales quotes - Mitchell was brought in to decide contract extensions, sign and sell players without permission from Eddie. Howe focuses on coaching. 
 

Howe is not a finance man. He can’t make all the decisions. Some players will need to be sold that he wants to keep. He’s aware of that. But he wants players that he wants. And he wants his voice heard when players contract are up for renewal. Eddie would’ve taken Etikite or Joao Pedro it seems but Isak was the number one target.  
 

im not sure if Eales was in post.  But PIF and Ashworth were there when we decided to go from £20m on Etikite, £30m on Joao Pedro, to £60m on Isak.  But it was Amanda and some degree Howe that’s blamed for the splurging.  Same goes for everyone else we bought at a premium - Eales was right there.  

 

Full control or strong influence is just semantics at this point. Howe wanted more say than Eales envisioned, let's just agree on that. My guess is that Mitchell is more used to working with a different model where he does all the buying and selling, the manager just has to coach whatever he's got to work with. Again, that's not an absolute, just a general idea of how things would operate.

[The College Dropout]

5 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Full control or strong influence is just semantics at this point. Howe wanted more say than Eales envisioned, let's just agree on that. My guess is that Mitchell is more used to working with a different model where he does all the buying and selling, the manager just has to coach whatever he's got to work with. Again, that's not an absolute, just a general idea of how things would operate.

There's a big difference between influence (Guardiola, Arteta) and zero control (Maresca, Slot). It's not semantics.

 

Eales decided unilaterally to change Howe's job. Pocchetino left Chelsea when they insisted on that model.

[Zero]

I think it’s safe to say that Howe has done and achieved too much that such a structure / model won’t suit him or the club.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 09:44 by Zero

[Paully]

There was definitely a lot of swarm about him - Eddie is the main man and no one gets in his way! 

[CallumG6]

Would anyone have Ashworth back?

 

[Rocker]

Eddie was overheard saying 'If you're coming for what's mine, you better bring a war, not a whisper'.

 

 

[r0cafella]

14 minutes ago, CallumG6 said:

Would anyone have Ashworth back?

 

No. 

[CallumG6]

16 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

No. 

Correct answer, well done you passed!

[kingxlnc]

At this point, I'll take Gordon Milne back

[Displayname]

,This season just showed that Eddie is now too big to put him into the place the club wanted him to be in.

He will be the main man now which leaves little place for egos the size of Mitchells. Cant have too many cooks in the kitchen.

 

 

Think we will live and die with Eddie now and just accept that there will be a transitional period after he leaves, which hopefully wont be for a long time. 

Think the best thing about a dominant sporting director is that they will think more about the long term future while managers often want players with an immediate impact. But I think the same can be achieved with Eddie if we make a big long term commitment to him. Not saying we should give him Caesar like powers, but there shouldnt be any single person above him atleast when is comes to decisions surrounding our playing staff.

[duo]

1 hour ago, CallumG6 said:

Would anyone have Ashworth back?

 

He's a new job hasn't he? With the FA 

[Optimistic Nut]

Just now, duo said:

He's a new job hasn't he? With the FA 

 

If they start his gardening leave now we could have him in place for the 26/7 season.

[The College Dropout]

11 minutes ago, Displayname said:

,This season just showed that Eddie is now too big to put him into the place the club wanted him to be in.

He will be the main man now which leaves little place for egos the size of Mitchells. Cant have too many cooks in the kitchen.

 

 

Think we will live and die with Eddie now and just accept that there will be a transitional period after he leaves, which hopefully wont be for a long time. 

Think the best thing about a dominant sporting director is that they will think more about the long term future while managers often want players with an immediate impact. But I think the same can be achieved with Eddie if we make a big long term commitment to him. Not saying we should give him Caesar like powers, but there shouldnt be any single person above him atleast when is comes to decisions surrounding our playing staff.

We could also just build the club in Eddie’s image even after he leaves. A big physical team of athletes that can press. Iraola could work with that.  
 

For almost 20 years Chelsea more or less had a team in a certain image that Mourinho built. Ancelotti made it work.  The Conte and Tuchel teams were similar.  
 

 

every great Newcastle side plays fast aggressive football with pace. ITS THE NEWCASTLE WAY.  

[GEFAFWISP]

Hey Paul, when you come at the king, you best not miss.

[TRon]

3 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

There's a big difference between influence (Guardiola, Arteta) and zero control (Maresca, Slot). It's not semantics.

 

Eales decided unilaterally to change Howe's job. Pocchetino left Chelsea when they insisted on that model.

 

Whatever. In the end it came down to the owners obviously decided they would rather lose the DoF than Eddie.

[Magpie Mover]

I'm guessing a lot of the uncertainty and apparent lack of direction comes from being owned by PIF but them not being particularly hands on as far as we know. As long as we continue to recruit well and progress both on and off the field it really doesn't matter who is nominally in charge. 

[splinter]

Eddie  typically  likes young players  he can improve  and develop,so would trust him completely  with transfers for now and the future. Before Ashworth  came his signings were good  and kept us up Mitchell  from the eord ho was a No for me. Came in and had a go and Eddie's body language whenever his name was mentioned said it all.

[KaKa]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6390257/2025/05/29/eddie-howe-paul-mitchell-uncertainty/

[SUPERTOON]

I wonder why we bothered to keep Mitchell until the end of June?

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

I wonder why we bothered to keep Mitchell until the end of June?

Maybe that's the date his contract is up? 

[Elric]

Bleh, an unnecessarily bleak spin on things in that athletic article, we'll be fine. 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, r0cafella said:

Maybe that's the date his contract is up? 

Possibly, I’d rather he just go now tbh, can’t see him being much help for the remainder of his time.

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, Elric said:

Bleh, an unnecessarily bleak spin on things in that athletic article, we'll be fine. 

Some decent questions raised I thought. It’s a bit of an unknown going into a bit window. Hopefully we do well in it.

[r0cafella]

5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Possibly, I’d rather he just go now tbh, can’t see him being much help for the remainder of his time.

Why? Don't think it makes much difference tbh. 

 

He's leaving so by power or influence he may have had has evaporated.