macphisto Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: Go have a look at some of the players Bournemouth, Brighton etc have managed to bring in the last season or two. It’s more than doable for us to sign a 2/3 quality players for 80 million. Completely different clubs and from afar I see them as good places for players to get accustomed to the Premier League without too much pressure. I would chuck Brighton and Fulham in the same category too. It is completely different at Newcastle where players don't have that bedding in period. I'm not saying don't buy young but they have to be top pedigree, like Hall, and they don't come too cheaply. I'm sure there will be occasions when we buy a cheap player from nowhere who can do a job but that will be very rare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 We have a manager whose best quality is developing young talent (Hall, Gordon etc). We have a sporting director whose biggest skill is unearthing young talent. I genuinely don’t see a reason why can’t progress and challenge even if the budget is 80 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, macphisto said: Completely different clubs and from afar I see them as good places for players to get accustomed to the Premier League without too much pressure. I would chuck Brighton and Fulham in the same category too. It is completely different at Newcastle where players don't have that bedding in period. I'm not saying don't buy young but they have to be top pedigree, like Hall, and they don't come too cheaply. I'm sure there will be occasions when we buy a cheap player from nowhere who can do a job but that will be very rare. You say they don’t have time to bed in here, then reference Hall, who took a year to bed in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 18 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We have a manager whose best quality is developing young talent (Hall, Gordon etc). We have a sporting director whose biggest skill is unearthing young talent. I genuinely don’t see a reason why can’t progress and challenge even if the budget is 80 million. I agree with most of that issue is just the size of the mini rebuild due. Taking the 80m as real and let's pair that with getting some Europe this season means we need a mini rebuild How many on final year do we want to keep? and who now needs improving who maybe only has a year left on their deal come the summer. Minimum before we look at squad building- Right wing striker cover for Isak New starting keeper or true number 2 rival RCB cover or new starting RCB That's a minimum before we look at what happens to longstaff or Barnes for instance and if they go do we need to spend some or all of the fee on their replacement I am glad it's not my job to make all this work you could spend 50m just on a starting RW so it's going to take more sales or these kids brought in to step up onto our first time bench ready to start/cover. Or alot of hits in the unearthed gem category. Edited February 4 by nufcjmc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Club telling the chronicle what they have to spend in the summer. Right, got ya! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 3 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: Go have a look at some of the players Bournemouth, Brighton etc have managed to bring in the last season or two. It’s more than doable for us to sign a 2/3 quality players for 80 million. Is 2 or 3 players enough if we are competing in Europe next season? And we might lose some that are running out of contract in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: So with our current squad now, most on here say we need a CB and RW? If we added that Huijsen for the 12 million he was available for last summer (a lot on here wanted him) that would give us 68 million left to get a RW and maybe keeper. You genuinely don’t believe that’s doable? To sustain a league finish in Europe and compete in the Europa league or CL to a good standard? I don’t think so no. It’s a thin squad low on quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 hours ago, Gawalls said: neither are we at the moment and Bournemouth have just about as much chance as being in Europe next season as we do currently, to say otherwise is very disrespectful. We got into CL once but that doesn't mean we're a CL club and we need to stop thinking like we are. They spent a lot less than we have in last few years and are sitting very near to us in he league, people are simply saying that success comes at their different approach to buying. I’m not talking about a 1 off season. I’m talking about squads that qualify for Europe in multiple seasons consecutively. 3-4 seasons in a row. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 17 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: To sustain a league finish in Europe and compete in the Europa league or CL to a good standard? I don’t think so no. It’s a thin squad low on quality. I’m basing it on no champions league, I can’t envisage us finishing top 5 this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 4 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: 80 million spent wisely is a decent amount tbf. Its Isaks left foot (Knee down) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 29 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: I’m basing it on no champions league, I can’t envisage us finishing top 5 this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 We need a GK, CB, RW and ST as it is. Potentially LB cover if Targett leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, The Prophet said: We need a GK, CB, RW and ST as it is. Potentially LB cover if Targett leaves. Agreed, on the face of it seems a lot, however we can be clever about it. KWP on a free would be left and right back cover for example. I still think we try sign a RW who can cover upfront as well (Mbuemo type). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 6 minutes ago, The Prophet said: We need a GK, CB, RW and ST as it is. Potentially LB cover if Targett leaves. And a CM to eventually replace Joelinton. Maybe not this summer but it’s coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Time to cook Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 I've said this before but I'm not sure we'd sign a third striker, I think it would block Osula's pathway. More like a RW who can cover upfront, in the ilk of Mbuemo? Having said that, that's assuming Osula does a Hall and actually gets used next season rather than bench warming. If he's not good enough to take reasonable minutes off Isak and cover in his absence, then yeah we'd need further cover up front Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just flog gordon for 100 million and we will be fine to build again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Who's paying £100M for Gordon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 He's worth that amount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny36 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 We got to be clever and get a few free transfers ( Jonathan David and Walker Peters, Angel Gomes) then a couple of big deals Mbeumo, Tapsoba, Trafford).. Will be an important Summer for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 6 hours ago, Cf said: For all the objection there'd apparently be to wage caps I fail to see how this isn't effectively the same thing. Obviously if you wanted to implement the "fair" aspect of it you'd set the amount to the same value for everyone. It is a club wage cap system. Caps on individual salaries would be more of an issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 33 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: It is a club wage cap system. Caps on individual salaries would be more of an issue Yeah. I've proposed before you just have an overall wage cap rather than an individual cap. Think there was still people suggesting there'd be push back on that. But seems to me that's sorta what's been brought in by the back door a bit anyway. The unfairness being of course that the cap isn't the same for everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, johnny36 said: We got to be clever and get a few free transfers ( Jonathan David and Walker Peters, Angel Gomes) then a couple of big deals Mbeumo, Tapsoba, Trafford).. Will be an important Summer for us Would be happy with all of those. That would be a perfect summer tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernmag Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 8 hours ago, johnny36 said: We got to be clever and get a few free transfers ( Jonathan David and Walker Peters, Angel Gomes) then a couple of big deals Mbeumo, Tapsoba, Trafford).. Will be an important Summer for us I want to know that we've at the very least pushed like crazy for most of these, the free transfers especially. If we dawdle around again, missing out on good deals while emptying our pockets before Steve Parish for two months, I will lose my rag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Free transfers don’t exist, and I’ve little concern re who the club targets. They’ve got very few transfers wrong thus far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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