AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 On 18/09/2024 at 04:18, cosmic said: Could Howe and Mitchell be staging this whilst giving reporters the drug they are craving for? Whilst bigger stuff is brewing in the background or taking the heat off the of delays of the "imminent" stadium & training ground plans? Expand Nope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 On 18/09/2024 at 13:44, macphisto said: I don't understand people using the example of nearly selling Gordon to illustrate how our strategy wasn't fit for purpose. It was the very same strategy that lead to us buying Gordan in the first place. Expand Our stated ambitions, from our owners themselves, was to be the best in the world. The best in the world are not shopping their Salahs, their Haalands, their Sakas, at the eleventh hour to be PSR compliant. We were willing to trade Gordon for Joe Gomez - does that sound like a functional system to you? Identifying Gordon was top class from our management. But PSR is also a game of selling. We've had effectively zero outgoing transfer business save Minteh, and even that almost didn't get done because we waited so late. Perhaps that's because management feels we don't have assets worth selling, or it might be because they've overlooked the importance of funding your business with outgoings. In either case, that is a strategy not fit for purpose of a club that wants to be the very best, and we should be applauding that we finally have someone with the balls to say it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 I cannot believe people and press are trying to make the situation between howe and Mitchell seem like a feud like in a fist full of dollars. π Eales must be clint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 I'm increasingly dying to know the details of summer 2023. It just doesn't make sense at all in hindsight. We were going to buy Pedro in August '22 and then changed course and spent more than double on Isak. Then we bought Gordon in January. We had pushed things to the financial limit and knew we had to make a profit in 2023/24. On the plus side we had SELA starting and Champions League qualification. The unexpected CL money could have been the get out of PSR jail free card, but it almost seems like it became a noose. It's like we felt we had to buy more players and lose no one in order to compete in four competitions and, while I have tremendous sympathy for how the season actually played out, the entire plan seems flawed no matter what is presented as the intended solution. The blame for that has to mostly lie with Eales, Ashworth, and Staveley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 Anyone know why sky bbc and the rest are running with this civil war theme and a massive amount of unrest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 On 18/09/2024 at 14:17, timeEd32 said: I'm increasingly dying to know the details of summer 2023. It just doesn't make sense at all in hindsight. We were going to buy Pedro in August '22 and then changed course and spent more than double on Isak. Then we bought Gordon in January. We had pushed things to the financial limit and knew we had to make a profit in 2023/24. On the plus side we had SELA starting and Champions League qualification. The unexpected CL money could have been the get out of PSR jail free card, but it almost seems like it became a noose. It's like we felt we had to buy more players and lose no one in order to compete in four competitions and, while I have tremendous sympathy for how the season actually played out, the entire plan seems flawed no matter what is presented as the intended solution. The blame for that has to mostly lie with Eales, Ashworth, and Staveley. Expand Yeah exactly, we don't know what led us to sail so close to the PSR wind really. Maybe they all just wanted to aim high and assumed they could deal with the income aspect later. Bad planning however you look at it, but I think when people here our transfer strategy wasn't 'fit for purpose' it hits home strangely when basically every signing has been a complete success. Anyway, they'll sort it now so I guess future windows will go fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 On 18/09/2024 at 14:17, timeEd32 said: I'm increasingly dying to know the details of summer 2023. It just doesn't make sense at all in hindsight. We were going to buy Pedro in August '22 and then changed course and spent more than double on Isak. Then we bought Gordon in January. We had pushed things to the financial limit and knew we had to make a profit in 2023/24. On the plus side we had SELA starting and Champions League qualification. The unexpected CL money could have been the get out of PSR jail free card, but it almost seems like it became a noose. It's like we felt we had to buy more players and lose no one in order to compete in four competitions and, while I have tremendous sympathy for how the season actually played out, the entire plan seems flawed no matter what is presented as the intended solution. The blame for that has to mostly lie with Eales, Ashworth, and Staveley. Expand On 18/09/2024 at 14:20, AyeDubbleYoo said: Yeah exactly, we don't know what led us to sail so close to the PSR wind really. Maybe they all just wanted to aim high and assumed they could deal with the income aspect later. Bad planning however you look at it, but I think when people here our transfer strategy wasn't 'fit for purpose' it hits home strangely when basically every signing has been a complete success. Anyway, they'll sort it now so I guess future windows will go fine. Expand You've both nailed it. I think we as a fanbase need to stop taking these comments so personally. The lad has been brought in by PIF to make sure we don't have such a debacle in the future, and he's basically said as much. Nowhere did he say the lads brought it weren't mint. We have a high hit rate with transfers, but as we know, there's more to it than bringing in mint players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 Think the press have a high level of blame in this recent debacle too - just angling for a story and angling for an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 I never thought Mitchell saying it wasn't fit for purpose meant the players we bought are poor. It surprised me that Eddie, who I consider switched on, took it as that. If we keep trading in the way we were, the clubs fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Prophet Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 On 18/09/2024 at 15:11, Weezertron said: I never thought Mitchell saying it wasn't fit for purpose meant the players we bought are poor. It surprised me that Eddie, who I consider switched on, took it as that. If we keep trading in the way we were, the clubs fucked. Expand Was Eddie asked about Mitchell's comments or hid recruitment record? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 On 18/09/2024 at 15:11, Weezertron said: I never thought Mitchell saying it wasn't fit for purpose meant the players we bought are poor. It surprised me that Eddie, who I consider switched on, took it as that. If we keep trading in the way we were, the clubs fucked. Expand Iβm not sure Eddie did take it as that TBH, he was just answering a question posed in a particular way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 On 18/09/2024 at 14:20, RodneyCisse said: Anyone know why sky bbc and the rest are running with this civil war theme and a massive amount of unrest? Expand Because they know it will get people wound up as most are easy bait. In short, they're lazy and love pumping the narrative regardless of validity. 'Journalism' has been shite in the UK for decades, it's just worse now with clickbait and rage driving views. I guess the alternative for many of them is ceasing to exist, so this is what we get. I honestly enjoy the rise of some of the more level headed streamers and data based analysis social media/youtube has brought us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 20, 2024 Share Posted September 20, 2024 He loves the tension. LOVES it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted September 20, 2024 Share Posted September 20, 2024 I don't trust Hope not to just quote selectively and frame it in the way he wants. Anyone go the full quotes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted September 20, 2024 Share Posted September 20, 2024 On 20/09/2024 at 11:01, The Prophet said: He loves the tension. LOVES it. Expand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted September 20, 2024 Share Posted September 20, 2024 On 20/09/2024 at 11:10, Dr.Spaceman said: Expand May I also add π π Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted September 20, 2024 Share Posted September 20, 2024 'eee well hello there! I thought today we'd take a little walk through leafy Gosforth today, where I can talk about how what I'm writing doesn't make me a cunt' - Hope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted September 20, 2024 Share Posted September 20, 2024 On 20/09/2024 at 11:01, The Prophet said: He loves the tension. LOVES it. Expand To be fair I thought Eddie specifically mentioning the board (when talking about unification) was sending a message. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 20, 2024 Share Posted September 20, 2024 Just seen heβs turned off his replies. Such an annoying, doom mongering cunt. Absolutely revels in the drama and always with the negative slant with his tone and approach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 20, 2024 Share Posted September 20, 2024 The quote tweets are glorious Probably why heβs turned comments off, mind. Maximum publicity for his clickbait, red top articles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 20, 2024 Share Posted September 20, 2024 Fair play to Lee for at least attempting a fight back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted September 21, 2024 Share Posted September 21, 2024 Serious question, can't the club just ban Hope and Louise Taylor from press conference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted September 21, 2024 Share Posted September 21, 2024 On 20/09/2024 at 16:12, Lush Vlad said: Just seen heβs turned off his replies. Such an annoying, doom mongering cunt. Absolutely revels in the drama and always with the negative slant with his tone and approach. Expand Yeah he does my head in, constantly craving a negative story Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted September 21, 2024 Share Posted September 21, 2024 Hope really boils my piss, he is a class A WUM. The paper he writes for obviously thrives on the crap he spurts via clickbait headlines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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