Marc Guehi

[ExiledGeordie]

14 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I’m keeping my FFP/PSR posts to that thread but I will say that we don’t have the revenue to tank 100m+ net spend summers at this point. 

Fair enough 👍

[Newcastle Fan]

I know he's good but i don't really think he's good enough to gamble our whole transfer market on.

[HayDen Traces]

24 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

A bit confused, has anyone said he won’t be a good signing? If yes can you please share the posts?

 

I think the concerns are relating to the price and affordability when it comes to compliance with the rules. 

Yes there has been a lot of "lets throw the towel in" attitude across members implying he's not worth what we're offering. I'm suggesting Howe and Mitchell believe he's worth overpaying for as he raises the level of the group. Howe has stated recently there's "a small pool of players that can improve us". Guehi has obviously been identified as one.

 

Regards PSR concerns, we've no idea what the board's commercial strategy is for the next 6, 12 or 60 months are except to grow it upward.

 

In which case we'll have a budget that Mitchell is working with. They believe Guehi is worth £65m to this club and squad, we have to assume they've planned this ahead against future revenue. 

 

Lets have faith in the ownership.

 

[Miggys First Goal]

2 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

"nothing is close"

So in Eddie’s language, he’s already signed and is recording his interview as we speak? 

[ExiledGeordie]

1 minute ago, HayDen Traces said:

Yes there has been a lot of "lets throw the towel in" attitude across members implying he's not worth what we're offering. I'm suggesting Howe and Mitchell believe he's worth overpaying for as he raises the level of the group. Howe has stated recently there's "a small pool of players that can improve us". Guehi has obviously been identified as one.

 

Regards PSR concerns, we've no idea what the board's commercial strategy is for the next 6, 12 or 60 months are except to grow it upward.

 

In which case we'll have a budget that Mitchell is working with. They believe Guehi is worth £65m to this club and squad, we have to assume they've planned this ahead against future revenue. 

 

Lets have faith in the ownership.

 

Good post 

[Skeletor]

Think we've overplayed our hand here. This shows we're desperate and Parish will be laughing like a super villain knowing he can ask for more.

[BottledDog]

1 hour ago, WilliamPS said:

I put him in my FF team on the basis he moves and becomes part of an elite 22/23 style NUFC defence so he better get it done. He’s a bit less than 65m at only 4.5m on that!

 

 

 

 

£4.5?!

We need WilliamPS on our negotiating team, pronto!

[r0cafella]

4 minutes ago, HayDen Traces said:

Yes there has been a lot of "lets throw the towel in" attitude across members implying he's not worth what we're offering. I'm suggesting Howe and Mitchell believe he's worth overpaying for as he raises the level of the group. Howe has stated recently there's "a small pool of players that can improve us". Guehi has obviously been identified as one.

 

Regards PSR concerns, we've no idea what the board's commercial strategy is for the next 6, 12 or 60 months are except to grow it upward.

 

In which case we'll have a budget that Mitchell is working with. They believe Guehi is worth £65m to this club and squad, we have to assume they've planned this ahead against future revenue. 

 

Lets have faith in the ownership.

 

The price is only relevant because of FFP, which is obviously a concern which has been brought into focus recently. 
 

Your post is one of those popular ones which ring a bit hollow to be honest, more than happy to discuss the psr aspect though in the relevant thread if you want to post there. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

3 minutes ago, Skeletor said:

Think we've overplayed our hand here. This shows we're desperate and Parish will be laughing like a super villain knowing he can ask for more.

 

This implies any negotiation is infinite though, any time we up our bid they ask for more?

[Erikse]

Here we are sweating about £65m as our only "big" signing this window (so far) due to PSR, meanwhile Chelsea just spent another £50m on Neto like it's nothing, after spending 3 times more than us in the last few windows and having made several pricey signings this window.

 

 

Edited August 16, 2024 by Erikse

[ExiledGeordie]

4 minutes ago, Skeletor said:

Think we've overplayed our hand here. This shows we're desperate and Parish will be laughing like a super villain knowing he can ask for more.

Impossible to say as nobody knows exactly what’s going on

[Skeletor]

Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

This implies any negotiation is infinite though, any time we up our bid they ask for more?

 

If you don't really want to sell and know the bidding club will keep coming up what's your incentive to settle?

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Erikse said:

Here we are sweating about £65m as our only "big" signing this window (so far), meanwhile Chelsea just spent another £50m on Neto like it's nothing, after spending 3 times more than us in the last few windows and making several signings this window.

 

 

 

Chelsea are able to offset such sales by selling academy players something they’ve been doing annually for years, also the baseline revenue they have is double ours. 
 

Unfortunately the dogshit rules makes us and them hard to compare. 

[Skeletor]

3 minutes ago, Erikse said:

Here we are sweating about £65m as our only "big" signing this window (so far) due to PSR, meanwhile Chelsea just spent another £50m on Neto like it's nothing, after spending 3 times more than us in the last few windows and having made several signings this window.

 

 

 

 

Cartel advantage.

[Dokko]

Guess this gets sorted either way. We won't go higher so thry accept and it moves quickly, or we go elsewhere and they'll have a player who doesn't want to stay with a clock ticking on his contract with no intention of renewing.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

6 minutes ago, Skeletor said:

If you don't really want to sell and know the bidding club will keep coming up what's your incentive to settle?

 

Well nothing, if you don't really want to sell. We're assume they're willing to sell, otherwise the whole thing is moot. 

[HayDen Traces]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

The price is only relevant because of FFP, which is obviously a concern which has been brought into focus recently. 
 

Your post is one of those popular ones which ring a bit hollow to be honest, more than happy to discuss the psr aspect though in the relevant thread if you want to post there. 

This comes across very patronising tbh.

 

I've mentioned PSR in my post and also that none of us truly know what our commercial forecasts are for the future. 

 

No need to go into a deep discussion on PSR when neither you or myself fully understand whats going on with our accounts and what our growth figures, sponsorship bonuses, upcoming deals look like. It will be speculative.

 

I'm suggesting we trust those in charge to do that.

 

[The Prophet]

Found these comments interesting from Howe:

 

“There are two ways to look at it,” said Howe, whose side kick off the new Premier League season against Southampton tomorrow. “If you believe in the deal, believe in the player and it’s still within your financial structure, then yes, 100 per cent, you keep working on it.

 

“But there are also times where we have to go, ‘Okay, that’s too much’, and we’ve done that plenty of times in the last two-and-a-half years. People might not have found out about that, but we’ve had to switch targets. It depends on the deal and the amount of money that you’re going to spend.”

[Skeletor]

2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Well nothing, if you don't really want to sell. We're assume they're willing to sell, otherwise the whole thing is moot. 

 

I mean, Parish may well agree and sell now. Just hope this doesn't leave us short of a RW and we're also not scrambling at the end of the season to sell anyone we can to meet PSR again. My trust in those running the club took a hit after the PSR shambles.

[bobbydazzla]

19 minutes ago, Skeletor said:

 

If you don't really want to sell and know the bidding club will keep coming up what's your incentive to settle?

Massive incentive for me would be that if we sign him then this insane thread can get locked and frozen in carbonite like Han Solo then dumped into the North Sea off the side of the DFDS ferry and it’ll never be opened again 

 

We can then start a brand new thread called NUFC’s Marc Guehi: Aerial Duels Won / Lost  

 

 

Edited August 16, 2024 by bobbydazzla

[Turnbull2000]

Not used to our deals being so public. Don't like it!

 

Can't say I'm particularly keen on this deal now, assuming it goes ahead. Could mean no other significant signings for a couple of years, or even a major sale next summer to avoid a points deduction.

 

Hope there's some significant commercial deals on the cards...

 

 

Edited August 16, 2024 by Turnbull2000

[Jamie87]

Considering we offered £70m for Olise, they're well aware of how much we can afford unfortunately. Puts us in a tricky negotiating position.

[Fak]

2 minutes ago, Jamie87 said:

Considering we offered £70m for Olise, they're well aware of how much we can afford unfortunately. Puts us in a tricky negotiating position.

 

Surely we didn't?

[Dokko]

Just now, Fak said:

 

Surely we didn't?

 

We didn't.

[Zero]

8 minutes ago, Skeletor said:

 

I mean, Parish may well agree and sell now. Just hope this doesn't leave us short of a RW and we're also not scrambling at the end of the season to sell anyone we can to meet PSR again. My trust in those running the club took a hit after the PSR shambles.

this is exactly where I am at. Don’t just say “trust the club/management” easily like the problem doesn’t exists.